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Monday, January 12, 2009

RE: [AlpacaTalk] RE: halter training

Hi Lysa,

Yes, it is possible to interbreed llamas and alpacas...frowned upon but has
happened, both intentionally and unintentionally over the years. Usually a
male alpaca put to a female llama results in a "huarizo" animal. If it is a
female alpaca and a male llama, I was told that it is called a "misti".
There was no such thing as a suri llama until one of the original alpaca
breeders bred his magnificent stud, El Magnifico, to a bunch of llamas to
create suri llamas...so we know they can interbreed and that the offspring
are fertile.

Allison Moss-Fritch
New Moon Alpacas
Santa Clara, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Lysa Grant
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:15 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] RE: halter training

Thanks for the info, I think I need new halters.
I just got back from PA Farm Show and I noticed the halters where
quite a bit different than
the ones I have.
I also thought that the alpacas were a bit smaller than my boys.
I am wondering if it is possible to breed alpacas and llamas? While
the ears on mine are alpaca sized and
they are definitely not as big as llamas, they are certainly larger
than most of the alpacas I saw at
farm show.

Sounds like you are doing great with Merry! Keep it up!

L
On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:59 AM, houckj@aol.com wrote:

> <<<<Hmmm. That is a nice story. Thanks for sharing.
> I have been able to get the halters on, but trying to lead them turns
> out to be dangerous with
> the kicking and rearing up!>>>>
>
> Lysa, I can't imagine trying to hand feed 2 males at the same time;
> that
> must be quite a feat :-). Sounds like you are doing great with these
> boys! Maybe you could take turns hand feeding one while the other eats
> and then reverse at the next feeding.....keeping them together, but
> one
> eating on his own?
> I am no expert, but will offer you the only tip I have that was
> given to
> me.......hold that lead rope right up under the chin so you have a
> firm
> grasp. That way you are controlling the head no matter what the legs
> are trying to do! And can prevent the rearing up by putting some
> downward pressure on the chin/head.
> I was told this by a llama breeder watching me trying to lead my first
> alpaca as she was weaving and bouncing and kicking up a fuss! The
> woman
> grabbed the lead rope right up under the chin and had nearly instant
> control. I was impressed and have done it that way ever
> since.....until
> they can walk nicely that is; and even still in stressful or
> potentially
> frightening situations. It seems to give them a sense of security or
> at
> least that someone is in control.
>
> Warmly, Janice
> PS Merry weighed 21# yesterday! a 1# gain in 2 days - I skipped a day,
> and she is getting so darn hard to carry I am going to start with the
> halter for a few minutes today and work with that for several days and
> try to lead her next time. I think I can safely start weighing her
> only
> 2x wk now. She is getting too doggone big and strong to carry and
> those
> legs, oh my those legs - so long and so strong. She has kicked over
> everything in my office trying to get in to the scales!
>
>

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