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Saturday, January 17, 2009

[AlpacaTalk] Re: Supplies to keep on hand

<<<<Vets at UCD suggest giving the "covexin 8" which has both tetanus
and CD for
various strains

Of the "C" part. That was just in the symposium. I think Fort Dodge makes
it.

They were questioned about its safety and whether it was "overkill" and the
response from

The vets was NO, this is OK to give to your alpacas and they need most of
the stuff that is in it;

What is extra won't hurt them.

In any case, that is the newest information given out by University of
California Vet school at

Their annual symposium

Allison Moss-Fritch>>>>

Interesting. That is what my first mentor used. She owns a quite large
llama farm about an hour from me and that is where I used to take my
first 2 alpacas (in my SUV) to get sheared each year and she would
administer their annual vaccines, trim teeth, etc as well. Then when I
got Doc Evans first (and 2nd) manual he is not fond of this vaccine and
prefers just the CD/T. The old cow vet I used here for a while didn't
have a clue nor a suggestions. I think he was just administering the
CD/T at my suggestion....but can't really remember, may have done Co8
one year as well.
Does anyone know if Doc Evans has changed his suggestion?
One thing I love about his manual is that he gives not only his
protocol, suggestions and observations, but also includes Dr Anderson's
and Dr Pugh's as well. I suppose I should pay more attention to Dr
Pugh's protocol as he is the closest to me geographically and that might
have something to do with the various protocols.....or else they are
just a reflection of different beliefs and experience. I believe I
recall that Doc Evans says he has seen more reactions and abscesses with
the Co8.

I recall I pretty detailed conversation here recently with Heather I
believe it was sharing some research info on the various strains of "C"
and how they do not affect alpacas?

Luckily, I guess - not so sure now after reading about this anaphylactic
shock possibility - I can get vaccines OTC, now if I could just get the
vet to let me keep some epinephrine on hand......and some Banamine, and
some tapeworm meds, and some SMZ. After I found one of my girls with
her jaw swollen up to the size of a football in the middle of the night
(when I was treating her eye every 4 hrs) I asked the vet for some epi
to keep on hand and she wouldn't give me any, said to go get some
benedryl.....but gave me no idea how to administer it. This is the same
vet that would not give me a script for tapeworm meds for my dog who
clearly and obviously had tapeworms back in the summer....and still has
them :-(. My old cow vet would have given me anything I asked for.
And the horse folks I know all keep banamine on hand. but I can't seem
to get any. I will not vaccinate again without some epi on hand. So I
guess I won't be vaccinating again :-(.

Thanks! Janice

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