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Friday, January 16, 2009

RE: [AlpacaTalk] RE: Supplies to keep on hand

Hi again,

Vets at UCD suggest giving the "covexin 8" which has both tetanus and CD for
various strains

Of the "C" part. That was just in the symposium. I think Fort Dodge makes
it.

They were questioned about its safety and whether it was "overkill" and the
response from

The vets was NO, this is OK to give to your alpacas and they need most of
the stuff that is in it;

What is extra won't hurt them.

In any case, that is the newest information given out by University of
California Vet school at

Their annual symposium

Allison Moss-Fritch

New Moon Alpacas

Santa Clara, CA

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of houckj@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:03 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] RE: Supplies to keep on hand

<<<<It is good to have on hand, though. I also keep
epinephrine.........a very very dangerous drug!!!! It's only about
$4.00, but if you give vaccines, worth having on hand. It should
only be used in cases of anaphylactic shock! It can kill and must be
dosed very very carefully and only if the animal is actually going
down right after receiving a vaccine>>>>

Well Yikes! All I can say is that is enough right there to make me
never give vaccines again! Which vaccine can cause such a severe
reaction? I think the only vaccine I have given is the CD/T and I
believe, from what I have I read here, that I am going to throw that out
and get just plain old tetanus from now on. Which brings another
question to mind. We 2 leggeds only are recommended to get our tetanus
every 7-10 yrs I think it is, why do we give it to our alpacas every year???

Thanks for the tip about straw vs hay. Never heard that before. But I
never have any straw around. I just threw the hay down on the concrete
floor after Merry was born and it was so cold those first few night.
And they keep a nice thick bed of hay out in their loafing shed (where
the hay rolls are).....what they don't eat turns into a nice thick layer
on the ground that keeps them dry when the ground is wet. I didn't mind
when hay is cheap but the past several years hay has gone thru the roof.
What I used to pay $25 for I now pay $70 for! So I cringe when I see
so much of it on the ground. I have no other dry place to store rolls,
so about once or twice a year I have several large rolls brought in; I
have to take the fence down (poor planning and ignorance) to let the
truck/trailer in and then roll them into the shed onto pallets. this
means they get all the hay they want. Which, contrary to the horses
lasts them a long time as they would rather be out grazing and browsing
than standing in the shed eating hay.

I've seen that kind of heater but sounds good for an ailing adult or at
risk cria in the cold. But you have given me an idea, I'm sure those
are expensive and not something I could put money into right now for
so;mething that would be used so seldom. I do have several old electric
blankets that I no longer use (prefer down comforters now), I fold one
in half and use under the sheet on my massage table. I could lay one
out on the barn/shed concrete floor and cover with another blanket (to
keep their toes from possibly tearing) and straw/hay. I even have an
old electric heating pad I could put down for a tiny cria; they move off
it, but I would think would be smart enough to find their way back to
that warmth.

Funny about yours being in the barn in the day time! That is strange.
Mine love sunbathing during the day. Baby and all doing find this
morning with wind chills of minus 10 last night! Jumped up this mornign
to go check on everyone; saw what looked like a lump of grey out in the
shed and in a panic went running; thankfully she stood up and started
walking towards me. Whew. One chicken has her comb frozen and wasn't
looking too good even yesterday, but everyone else seems to be hanging
on fine. Another 24-36 hrs before we break freezing. Can't use any of
the faucets or hoses; bringing up frozen water in the buckets and will
be carrying hot water in tea pots out all day today. Don't know how you
guys up north make it thru your winters! And yeah, its the wind that
gets me.

Warmly (wishful thinking), Janice who has her fingers crossed her 300
new strawberry plants will survive first being under water for 3 days
and now having their noses frozen hard.

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