Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Feed discussion
When I first got my herd delivered, I couldnt find alpaca feed ( pellets ) locally, so I got Mazuri llama feed. I found it interesting the diameter of the llama feed, is smaller in diameter than the alpaca feed, Mazuri also. I called Mazuri twice, the second time I talked to their nutritionist, who fed me some shit about them doing a study and they found that the larger size, ( .265 inch in diameter, that is OVER 1/4 " ), caused less choke in alpacas. It was suggested I raise the feeders ( I do have the feeders hanging on the wall, the last one to choke was a baby that insists on eating off a cleaned area of the matted floor ). Something about the alpacas in Chile not eating off the ground... By then, I had tuned her out. I am sure the alpacas in Chile or any where for that matter ( in the ' wild ' ) eat off a raised feeder while grazing. The other one that had choked earlier this year, was a year and a half old. She prompted the first call that got no where.
Jim Guerin
Yelm, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: Wendy Edwards
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Feed discussion
i had the same thing happen with the fibre - i carefully bred for superior fibre, then found my crias had a 26 micron count at 9 months and the adults i'd purchased because of their fine fibre, in one year were blown out to 26 - 28 microns - i was very upset and didn't know the cause - now i know
also, i have a beauty little female who has coughed and choked alarmingly since i got her - always when she is eating - i thought it was the hay and we have changed suppliers three times - when i contacted the person i bought her from, she wasn't aware of this awful coughing and hacking - now i know where that comes from too
this discussion is great - i'm learning more all the time
wendy
----- Original Message -----
From: Heather Zeleny
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Feed discussion
Well, we know that corn and those high starch and sugar products
increase acidity in the guy, make the gut inhospitable to the hay mat,
cause digestive problems, ulcers...
It is proven that excessive corn or starchy feeds makes ruminants sick.
We do know that it was the pellet we used to feed to our alpacas that
caused the perforated ulcer and the fleece blow-outs. That was the only
variable.
Since we've been on our new pellet, nearly all of our
cria/weanling/
pellet, that used to be cause for celebration, now it's the norm on our
farm.
We have mature males with 21µ at 5 years. Our other animals who blew
out have regained their former fineness. Not all completely back to the
prior count, since it's been a few years, but our only animals with
30+µ are very mature black animals. And even some of those have
regained some fineness.
So short answer, yes. It is caused by the feed.
Heather
On Dec 21, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Steve wrote:
> So corn, then I'm assuming, causes fiber blowout? Is that the idea?
> What sort of other things can cause this???
>
> Steve!
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