Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: FEEd- A great Alpaca feed
Hmm. No offense taken if in fact none was intended. I have seen this
very remark far too many times not to take it personally.
I do wonder though, how can you really say that MOST fiber blowout is
caused by overfeeding? Where is your empirical research to prove that?
Please refrain from making those statements without at least anecdotal
proof. And proof that you can point to, as we can with our herd.
Please refrain from making gross accusations and generalizations in the
future. Statements I make are about my own herd and my own
observations. Others, I cite scientific papers and references. Your
statement did neither, except to attempt to negate all of my statements
up to that point. I won't stand for it! Say it ain't so!
Please, you too, have the best of holidays and receive the abundance of
the universe that is due to your.
Heather
On Dec 22, 2008, at 7:47 PM, bluebirdhills@
>
>
> No Offense Intended Heather,
> Was replying to Steve's post not
> yours. It is felt by many in this industry that most fiber blowout
> is caused by overfeeding, or that we provide better nutrition than
> what
> alpacas experienced in South America, and likewise you can "fine
> an alpaca down" by not feeding much at all. In fact the
> extreme is referred to as starvation fineness, but I don't want to
> imply that this is what is happening in your case.
>
> There is no
> doubt that nutrition affects fiber quality, and there is no doubt it
> does
> affect the health of the critter. Don't have any inclination at all to
> challenge your results, Heather,and believe you completely, but I
> have heard many an unsuspecting new owner repeat that their particular
> purchase doesn't have the quality fleece it was purported to have by
> the
> seller because of fiber blowout, when most likely it is the nature of
> that
> alpaca to coarsen with age.
>
> I have plenty of coarse alpacas on
> my farm that had great microns at an early age. They coarsened as they
> grew up and now I am seeking the genetics of alpacas that have
> retained
> their fineness. If you look at most of the ads, the microns reported
> are
> from the first year or two of life.
>
> Sorry to have caused the
> misunderstanding. Have a Merry Christmas!
>
> Laurel
> Bluebird
> Hills Farm
> Springfield, Ohio
> 937-206-3936
>
> > That's
> funny Laurel,
> > We were feeding our old pellet as directed. We
> have no interest in
> > overfeeding, saying so and implying that
> was the cause of our problems
> > is insulting.
> >
> > We lost our best female to a perforated ulcer and had those
> herd-wide
> > micron blowouts. After we stopped that feed, general
> health improved,
> > specific health problems resolved or improved,
> luster in fleece
> > returned, crimp returned, crias are now
> normal/correct birth weights
> > instead of fatties making delivery
> difficult.
> >
> > How do you account for those results? The
> previous long-time owner of
> > Aussie Rockford also changed from
> that old pellet to our custom milled
> > one, and also noticed
> increased fleece crimp, luster, depth of color,
> > which she
> stated indicated an adundance of health. Due to the superior
> >
> feed.
> >
> > Even before we started this pellet, our
> animals wouldn't touch Dynamite
> > pellets. And with the WABA
> pellet it was dicey. We haven't tried any
> > other feeds.
> >
> > Heather
> >
> > On Dec 22, 2008, at 7:19
> AM, Shouvlins wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Steve,
> >>
>
> >> No particular ingredient causes fiber blowout. It is just
> caused by
> >> eating too much in general whether it be too much
> good pasture, too
> >> much good hay, or too much supplement. I
> also personally feel that it
> >> can sometimes become a
> convenient excuse for the alpaca that is too
> >> coarse in
> micron.
> >>
> >> Laurel
> >>
> >>
> Tim & Laurel Shouvlin
> >> Bluebird Hills Farm
> >> 3617 Derr Rd.
> >> Springfield, Ohio 45503
> >> bluebirdhills@
> >> www.bluebirdhills.
>
> >> 937-206-3936
> >
> >
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