Re: [AlpacaTalk] Sent to Alpaca site...held, not posted by site...
Oh my dear Lord.? I can't believe people are trying to insinuate that anyone is pushing a meat adjenda with the "certified angus beef" analogy used in that Blast.??
Several years ago I volunteered to help out AFCNA in whatever way I could.? The thing they "assigned" me was working on the "Alpaca Mark", which was modeled after Australia's Wool Mark.? Has anyone heard of Wool Mark?? I surely hadn't.? If AOBA had put "Create a national end production marketing? program similar to Wool Mark"? people would have said - what the h*ll is wool mark?? They put a marketing program every American can relate to and they still get grief.
AOBA is damned if they do, and damned if they don't.?
Heidi Christensen
WingNut Farm Alpacas
Graham WA
(253) 846-2168 or (253) 592-0200
www.wingnut-
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From: libby@alpacafarm.
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Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Sent to Alpaca site...held, not posted by site...
Heather,
Look at the bottom of the e-mail blast re: Affiliate Congress. It's
tucked away at the bottom of that e-mail with no mention of the subject in
the subject line. You can read it there.
Libby
Libby Forstner
Magical Farms, Inc.
Litchfield Ohio
(330)667-3233
Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@westwind
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Sent to Alpaca site...held, not posted by site...
I can't believe it, Allison, but I guess I missed that eblast. I got
the one about shutting down the affiliate congress, was there a new
one?
As far as the meat references go, well did everyone know that their
beloved Ian Watt (now AOBA board member) has long been a proponent of
an alpaca meat industry in Australia, and also feels that there should
be one in the US?
Just asking.
Heather
On Nov 13, 2008, at 12:46 AM, Allison Moss-Fritch wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> First off.I like Satsuma Tangerines if anyone is throwing something.
>
> WHOA folks..back down from DEFCOM 000!
>
> While I too am somewhat surprised by the short "Blast".from the
> B.O.D., I
> see it as well within their chartered duties to plan and then execute
> that
> plan. They are a new BOD; we should accord them a chance to show us
> what
> they have in mind. I am in favor of giving them a fair chance to get
> things going. I would appreciate a little more public discussion just
> because feelings are running unnaturally high and have been the last
> few
> years.even if the BOD knows where they are going, ample notice to the
> membership is never a wasted keystroke.
>
> I don't have enough information on what went into the plan yet to
> evaluate
> whether it shows or does not show the input which was programmed.
> What we
> have is a conclusion or summary.does not tell us where it came
> from.and only
> is a map to where it intends to go.
>
> As for the "like Angus Beef"..I think, in context, that this is
> supposed
> only to demonstrate a branding of a greater quality product being
> marketed
> within a larger market..like "Pure Lambswool" is marketed within the
> International Wool Markets.
>
> The unappetizing idea of well BBQ'd alpaca is unfortunate.
> believe,
> unintentional.
>
> I have been involved in a meat industry in my youth. No sane person
> markets
> their older animals as meat..even in a meat market situation those
> older
> animals are what is called "cutter/canner"
> of
> meat production. It is usually intended to lessen a loss on an
> otherwise
> untenable financial situation for the shepherd in a shorter lived
> species
> where the older animal is not producing, is eating, is failing and
> cannot be
> made into a viable business.so goes to slaughter.
>
> Actual meat animals are usually immature males or geldings. (very
> early
> gelded) and slaughtered before 18 months because older "sexed" meat
> has an
> unpleasant strong taste. If you have a 1000 lb steer, it is a young
> animal..if you have a 2,500 lb bull that now is not producing.you have
> either a lot of salami or a lot of dog food!
>
> We have a market for our cria and tui fleece animals.even males.and
> they can
> be in fiber herds for several years thereafter. So as a practical
> matter.there is not a market that can compete with their value as
> fiber
> animals when they are young.and they don't taste like much old. As a
> practicality, that limits the "meat market".and I would not worry
> much about
> it with this BOD notwithstanding the idea that at some time we might
> have to
> mature into a market that realized some animals might indeed end up
> in the
> slaughter house. That is a reality even now for a very few animals,
> unfortunately. It is not however, nor is it likely to become in the
> near
> future.a thriving competitive meat market in older, alpacas.
>
> Now, let us please settle down and let the BOD have a chance to
> "flesh out"
> their ideas (not BBQ them, mind you).we elected them and we need to
> give
> them a chance to do what it is that they have been elected to do.
> That will
> take time---and yes, it takes a plan of where they intend to go.
>
> I do think that they have a very full plate of items that need tending
> to..and they know it. Restoring the trust level of the membership, as
> we
> can see, is a critical goal on that plate. I would like to see us
> back down
> from ATOM and BRAVO back to CHARLIE or DUFUS levels of alarm. We have
> lived
> too long under the maudlin fear mongering of our own minds----time
> for 3
> deep breaths and the mantra: "This ..*&#$%*(*&)
> first
> heart attack"
>
> I don't like the feeling that our membership is becoming a pack of
> pit bulls
> with tetanus! So.I'm trying a little levity! Come on folks, first the
> deep
> breaths.then LAUGH!!!!
>
> Allison Moss-Fritch
>
> New Moon Alpacas
>
> Santa Clara, CA
>
> http://www.newmoona
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