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Thursday, November 13, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Old Boys Club


People are upset about how things are run in AOBA and talk about the Aussie's forming a second group because of the same reasons.? But all people in the US do is bi*ch on yahoo groups.? I?can find absolutely no way?that can be productive.

If someone wants to form a "Small Farm?Alpaca Breeders Association", let me know.? I still will keep my AOBA membership because I choose to be a member of the Ideal Alpaca Community - but I would be a member if I happen to have the cash around.

Heidi Christensen
WingNut Farm Alpacas
Graham WA
(253) 846-2168 or (253) 592-0200
www.wingnut-alpacas.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael A. Morack <mam2@wi.rr.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 7:16 am
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Old Boys Club

I think people are well aware of what "Old Boy's Club" means. I think
what people are attempting to tell you that there are some people
disposed to controlling others - that is their nature. There are
those who are working to make this a great industry for everyone -
especially the smaller farms. I think what people are trying to tell
you is to focus on those who are working for the industry and how we
can improve the industry for all members regardless of size.

Let me state an example: Ideal Alpacas! Entry fee - ownership in an
Alpaca that carries the pedigree of one of many males used to improve
the herd along with a web site to display and conduct business. If you
don't like the entry fees in one promotion look for another rather
than tear down the honest efforts of some to succeed, ooorr, create a
new one that you think will work better.

The reason for this post is one more attempt to help you see the high
road and find an approach that makes you successful rather than
attempting control over a group that have developed a very successful
program - sounds like you have.

If you have issues with AOBA, then send AOBA your constructive
criticism with possible alternate ideas that they may implement. Let's
develop a live let live appraoch and target those things that keep
this industry moving ahead for everyone.

This approach is difficult for some persons because it begiles their
nature, but then we can all learn and improve. Let's try it.

Michael
Michael and Margery A. Morack
Greenbriar Farm
Waukesha, WI
262.970.9633
MAM2@wi.rr.com

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@...>
wrote:
>
> It seems that people for some reason don't know anymore what the "Old
> Boy's Club" or network is. It does not refer to the pioneers in a
> field, it does not refer to "good ole boys". The Old Boy's Club is seen
> as closed network who control business and do business amongst
> themselves.
>
> Remember those commercials recently about the bankers sitting at the
> huge mahogany desk, with the small business man asking for a loan? He
> was about 6 inches high... Remember that commercial? The distinguished
> white haired banker flicked the small business owner into the
> wastebin...
>
> That is the Old Boy's Club. And that is how many of us small breeders
> feel the alpaca industry is.
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2008, at 6:57 AM, Michael A. Morack wrote:
>
> > I want to take a moment to thank the older members of the Alpaca
> > Community and some insight into why.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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