Re: [AlpacaTalk] Breed differences
But Heather, if you believe the information in the Snowmass brochure #2, vicuna has extreme crimp. They describe vicuna as having curvature between 50 and 90 degree. Not much different than their crimpy merino and Inca type huacayas, with curvatures between 40 and 70. An animal "devoid" of crimp would be suri, which still can have curvature up to 30 degrees.
Heidi Christensen
WingNut Farm Alpacas
Graham WA
(253) 846-2168 or (253) 592-0200
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From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@westwind
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 7:38 pm
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Breed differences
Wow, what a great line of thought! We don't judge suri and huacaya
together, why judge all the types of huacaya against each other?
Excellent point! It's also well acknowledged that there are different
types of suri and huacaya fleece, why not celebrate them all and
promote each type for its qualities?
I hear spinners all the time say that they don't especially want crimpy
alpaca fleece. Eric Hoffman has some great articles about huacaya
fiber, vicuña fiber, and this new sheep model that many are now pushing
on the rest of us. In essence, Hoffman says that since it has been
proven that alpacas were domesticated from vicuñas, who have no visible
crimp but what is described as "crinkle," that it makes no sense to
chase a sheep standard for our alpaca fleece. Those who push the "crimp
makes superior fleece" argument als
o claim that well organized crimp
equals higher fleece density and a greater follicle per sq mm and also
a greater s/p ratio... yet vicuñas who have a much higher follicle
density and s/p ratio than most alpacas are devoid of crimp!
I'm a conspiracy nut, so it looks to me as though the powers that be
(those in charge of the AOBA judging program) are pushing their
breeding standard and breeding program on the rest of us, just as they
tried to push the breed standard on us!
Heather
On Aug 12, 2008, at 7:10 PM, susanschardt wrote:
> I am seeing lots and lots of interest in Peruvian animals. The peruvian
> fiber characteristics seem to be the standard that all are measured
> against. There is a real difference in the characteristics in chilean
> vs peruvian fiber. As a spinner I really don't like the tight super
> crimp and bundle of the peruvians. A long stapled with crinkle, silky
> with very little bundle is perfect in my spinners eyes - exactly what
> you find in full chileans.
>
> In other types of animals each breed has its own standards to be
> judged
> agains - poodles don't compete against Germn Shepards - so why do we
> compare Peruvians to Chileans and Bolivians?
>
> Susan
> Borrowed Pastures
>
>
>
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