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Tuesday, August 12, 2008

[AlpacaTalk] Re: How do you breed great blacks?

Hi Scott - I am located in Otago, New Zealand. Heather hit on one
of my key issues - number of non-blacks will be higher if I bring in
colours now or anytime and I don't have a huge property so I don't
have the luxury of having animals hanging around that are not part
of my core breeding program!

I could be wrong about the situation in NZ [given I am new to this
alpaca thing but totally hooked already!] but it seems unless I look
to imports, the pool of quality black studs here is limited.

That is why I am on an information trawl to see if there is an
opportunity for me to be strategic now and have a "point of
difference" to my blacks in say 5 years time.

I thought no one really knew which colours were recessive and which
dominant??? Have I got that wrong? I thought you could only truly
determine definite probabilities of offspring colour if colour was
carried on a single gene [or is it loci?]. It was my understanding
the colour calculators are based on observed offspring colour vs dam
and sire rather than on real probabilities based on gene transfer??
Oops I am showing my ignorance here...forgive me.

It makes good sense though what you all have said - that if you mix
black with lighter colours, the chance of getting lighter colours is
higher - stick with black on black and you will likely get black
more often. But what if the best black is so so so so inferior to
the best lighter colour?

Anyway - thanks again
Mandy

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Scott Ebert <ebertss@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mandy
> where are you located.
> Scott Ebert
> Erie Oasis Alpacas
>
> mmttocher <miniwaka@...> wrote:
> Hi there - this is all very helpful to me. The bit of
reading I
> have done led me to put my "half decent" girls to the best gray
stud
> around - so I made a good decision it seems!
>
> Reading the comments here, am I right in assuming there is no
> evidence to date that you get great blacks faster [i.e. in fewer
> generations] by bringing in whites early on to "jump start" the
> process?
>
> Has anyone tinkered with line breeding to "cement" in traits like
> black then straight away bringing in a good white? Hope that makes
> sense???
>
> The problem I have is a limited range of black studs locally so I
> figure I need to be very strategic about my choices now while I am
> in the early stages of "improvement"- i.e. its now or never re:
> bringing in the lighter colours. I say this because my ultimate
> goal is to produce great blacks. Hope this doesn't sound too
> muddled.
>
> Thanks again - keep the comments coming!
> Mandy
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