RE: [AlpacaTalk] gelding a breeding male
There are lots of reasons to geld a proven breeder. Here are a few reasons
we have done so:
1. Confirmed that the herdsire was not improving over the dams he was
breeding;
2. Marginal quality herdsire was used when farm was starting, quickly
was obvious he wasn't really a good herdsire;
3. Saw undesirable traits in offspring.
Keep in mind that if your goal is to quickly improve your herd you should
only be using males that are in the top 5-10% of all males (not just the top
5-10% of your males). Just as in all livestock businesses we only need a
very few very good males to settle the girls - the rest are (or should be)
fiber boys. If you have a boy who is not blue ribbon quality you are not
helping your business if you use him. We know personally how difficult it
can be to take a nice boy (say an 80th percentile boy) and acknowledge that
he isn't the level you need for breeding your dams up.
Don Stanwyck
Carnation, WA
From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Behalf Of Heather Zeleny
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:02 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] gelding a breeding male
I don't think it's ever advisable to put a gelding of any age with open
females, especially juveniles. A proven herdsire will undoubtedly breed
open females, breeding is a learned behavior in camelids and unlike
dogs and cats, the males anyway, will continue to breed if they can.
Come to think of it, some dogs and cats do, too, if they have bred
before neutering.
My greater question is why would someone want to geld a male who is a
proven breeder? In any instance, my preference would be to obtain a
non-breeder companion female.
Heather
Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
(formerly West Wind Alpacas)
Eugene, OR
541.895.0964
Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
http://www.alpacana
http://tech.
On Jul 5, 2008, at 8:47 PM, Emaly Leak wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a question about gelding a breeding male. The boy in question
> is 9
> years old, and has sired 5-10 crias. I am considering purchasing him
> as a
> fiber boy, but he would have to be gelded. First, is it an issue to
> geld a
> male that is this old? I wasn't sure about the anesthesia. Second, I
> would
> have to put him in with my female llamas and crias after he was gelded
> (after a waiting period, of course). Is there a good chance that a
> proven
> male would still calm down enough to be put in with females, or would
> he not
> be trust-worthy? I've only dealt with gelding younger males (under 3
> years
> old). Thanks, Emaly
>
> Emaly Leak
>
> Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber
>
> llamapyr25@earthlin
>
> www.autumnhillllama
>
> Fairland, IN
>
> Llamas, Alpacas, German Angora Rabbits, and Fiber Items
>
> Female & Male Llamas For Sale
>
> Outside Breedings available to ALSA Halter Champion Male
>
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