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Monday, January 07, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AOBA Shennanigans/subsidiary

Thanks for your reply, Rick, but I was actually asking Carolyn
Marquette what she was saying in her post. She's the one who remarked
that my account info was not published at ARI.

Yes, I did say shennanigans (a thousand pardons, I added an extra "n")
and I do call bullshit on this. It still looks bad and smells bad.

On the other hand, I doubt that anyone would want to "take down AOBA"
"because I can." That sounds like a complete fabrication to any
reasonable person.

Of course we all know where certain people's allegiances lie. But maybe
it's time that AOBA had new people running it. And maybe the BOD ought
to the completely accountable to the membership, not just "to a point"
as Steve Hull pointed out.

Heather

On Jan 6, 2008, at 9:25 PM, All American Alpacas wrote:

> Heather,
> I for one would not claim you, or anyone would be deceptive for not
> changing
> a default setting on ARI. Hey, I'm smart. I can google your alpacas
> and see
> who owns them.
> On the same note, you are the one that started the thread and used
> the terms
> "shennanigans" (sic) and said "I call bullshit on this" (your words,
> not
> mine.)
> They didn't hide it, it was in the minutes, Hey, I'm smart, I can read
> them. I received my first email from ALC in December when I renewed.
> The BOD is just a bunch of breeders that were willing to get off of
> their
> butts and work hard for the industry.
> They spent countless hours fighting frivolous lawsuits, tried to run
> their
> own farms, their family matters, and worked hard for our national
> organization.
> They didn't send an email when they followed council's advice on a
> way to
> save member's money.
> What a scandal, we did not elect perfect people. We settled for
> second best,
> those who had the member's best interests in mind. (Paraphrased from
> Romanik
> vs AOBA)
> Those in glass houses should not throw stones.
> I have no desire to enter a dialogue with you, but if you intend to
> attack
> the people that work their asses off for this industry and you want
> to play
> armchair quarterback, maybe you should try volunteering and seeing
> what it's
> like to wear a target.
>
> Rick
> --
> Rick & Pati Horn
> All American Alpacas
> Murrieta, Ca. 92563
> (951) 217-0306 Fax (951) 679-8696
> Life is Good!
> http://aaalpacas.com/identity.html
>
> > From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com>
> > Reply-To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 18:17:39 -0800
> > To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AOBA Shennanigans/subsidiary
> >
> > And by the way, your implication that I have attempted to hide my
> > personal information is noted. I have not "opted out" of anything.
> That
> > is the default setting at ARI.
> >
> > I own an El Bello son, and while looking at his info at ARI, I
> noticed
> > El Bello has 4 owners, only one of whom has their account info
> > published. Are you also implying that those people who have not
> > selected to make that info public are deceptive and secretive and
> > somehow doing something questionable?
> >
> > Heather
> >
> > On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:48 AM, sesamedame@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> <Hmmm. I don't recall opting out of anything in my ARI membership,
> and
> >> <having just looked at my membership info online, I can't for the
> life
> >> <of me find out what you're talking about or where to change
> whatever
> >> it
> >> <is you claim I have opted out of! Do tell, I'd love to change it
> >> asap.
> >>
> >> You've opted not to include your name as owner of your animals
> within
> >> the
> >> ARI database. Instead of listing your name it says 'not published
> by
> >> owner'.
> >>
> >> This is a simple change made within your acount info.
> >>
> >> Carolyn Marquette
> >
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> >
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