RE: [AlpacaTalk] Re: was AFCNA now secrets
Hi Floyd,
In recognition of Oscar Wilde's birthday yesterday, I will answer your question like this.
"Disobedience, in the eyes of anyone who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience and rebellion that progress has been made."
No, it has nothing to do with AOBA whatsoever. A private venture. No details are worked out yet, so I don't have any for you. When have more information, you can be sure it will be shared ASAP.
Stephanie
Stephanie
Floyd Romanik <floyd@indiansummera
Stephanie,
Will this happen through the AOBA Fiber Committees?
I also believe someone asked if there was any connection between AOBA and
AFCNA. If I responded to the wrong site or someone else has answered this
sorry for the repetition. If I recall correctly AOBA gave the AFCNA $10,000
for start-up funding in exchange for a permanent non-voting AFCNA Board
seat.
Floyd and Ana Romanik
Indi9an Summer Alpacas
Chepachet, RI
Phone: (401) 568-7759
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Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: was AFCNA now secrets
That would require paying money to an organization
that will not provide the products (or yarn) that we
used to get when AFCNA was new. They processed the
fiber and sent it back to you in skeins and cones. Not
anymore. I would never pay money to a company that
doesn't offer what I want and is shady in the way it
deals with questions about how it does business.
This whole conversation is going nowhere. AFCNA won't
budge and talking with other farms doesn't solve
anything because AFCNA won't budge.
A new solution to the problem will present itself in
the future that has nothing to do with AFCNA.
Processing with sorting will be provided (including
2nd and 3rds-there are products to be made with them
also) with the option of getting yarn back and/or
products.
Everything will work out just fine for everyone.
Stephanie
--- fortryan <maasrj@netzero. <mailto:maasrj%
> Asking questions should be encouraged. My only
> complaint is with the
> call for involving the FTC (or any other regulating
> body). And I know
> this wasn't your thing Heather, so it's awkward
> debating an issue when
> the initiating side isn't present.. Anyway, I'm
> sufficiently jaded
> when it comes to politics but not for small
> member-run organizations.
> If we're to the point that we need to involve an
> outside regulator in
> our internal activities (the FTC here or the courts
> with AOBA) then
> maybe it's time for that organization to be put to
> pasture and start
> fresh. However, if we're to that point with member
> questions and BOD
> evasiveness, then why not simply elect members that
> are sympathetic to
> the will of the majority? Of course in this case,
> that takes a non-
> conflict-of-
> and represent the
> membership, which I know is not always easy to find.
>
> I'm not willing to give up on AFCNA. I think it's a
> very valuable and
> important piece of the puzzle for our industry. If
> there is truth to
> the claims being made, then let's do something about
> it as voting
> members of the organization, not as writers of
> letters to the FTC.
>
> If you're not a member and you won't become one
> because you think the
> organization is run poorly, then how can you hope to
> have your
> questions heard? Be a member if you think the
> organization is valid
> and of value (regardless of the current board
> members), then direct it
> with your vote.
>
> Ryan
>
> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogro <mailto:AlpacaTalk%
Heather Zeleny
> <alpacatalk@
> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know. I just don't feel comfortable with
> the thought of
> giving
> > my money and fleece to an organization that is so
> secretive.
> >
> > Heather
>
>
>
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