Re: [Alpacasite] Re: Senior Judges & Llamas

Angie,

You have hit on a very good point.

There are some that are very afraid for information to be known by new
breeders and would like to see this site be censored and thus the cry
for discussions like this to be "moved to the alpacapolitic site". There
are others that feel that free sharing of information concerning all
aspects of raising alpacas should be shared across the widest possible
group of alpaca owners and thus don't see the merit of trying to
restrict sharing of alpaca news (regardless of subject).

What one person deems politics can very well be seen as education by
another.

This is why we all have delete keys (IMHO).

Tim Wilson
Sterling Forrest Alpacas
Chagrin Falls, OH

Angie Gray wrote:

>Just out of curiosity, what are we trying to accomplish with this
>thread? If we are just puting information out there so everyone knows
>what is going on, thank you ...point taken. If we're trying to stir it
>up and start something, that's when alpacapolitics may come in handy.
> For those of us who were barely starting out three years ago and
>don't really know what happened, it's hard to understand the reasoning
>behind posts such as these.
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>Angie Gray
>Starlight Alpacas
>Eugene, Oregon
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>--- In Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com, "Moon Spinner Alpaca"
><moonspinneralpaca@m...> wrote:
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>>Why is it Madl is willing to name names(implying that Madl is
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>protecting someone else?) but so many others just imply that there
>might be a problem, instead of just naming the individuals.
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>>Jerome
>>Moon Spinner Alpaca
>>Copperopolis Ca 95228
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kenneth E. Madl<mailto:kenneth.madl@p...>
>> To: Alpaca Discussion Forum<mailto:Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 12:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Alpacasite] Senior Judges & Llamas
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>> On Sat Dec 3, 2005, Neil wrote:
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>> > Love your husbandry quotes Ken. Why not keep the politics
>> > where it belongs.
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>> Because I guess I'm just not smart enough to see how ethics
>> violations, and the future of our alpaca industry is the same thing
>> as politics.
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>> As I pointed out, ALSA makes clear that "Judges must at all times
>> exhibit the highest standard of integrity and professionalism." In
>> an editorial, "Llama Life II" wrote:
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>> "Being a judge, being on the board of a registry, being a
>> veterinarian, being a breeder of influence -- these all carry heavy
>> burdens of responsibility. Breaking those trusts should carry an
>> equally heavy penalty if the industry expects to be taken seriously."
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>> I am disappointed that AOBA doesn't require the same standard of
>> integrity, but perhaps if enough people were concerned that could
>> change.
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>> Ken Madl
>> Aviana Farms
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