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Tuesday, December 06, 2005

[Alpacasite] Re: Detecting Genetic Collagen Ear Defect

Thank you Lisa. That was a very good description.

Best Regards

Jeff Groene
Cranston, RI
a749970@cox.net

--- In Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Robin Olsen" <AlpacaAtlantic@a...> wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
> This response almost sounds too simple -- but in reality, it just
> feels like a thick ear. In most that I've felt, the thickness
> begins about half-way down the ear and varies in thickness. I've
> seen ear canal openings that you couldn't even see into with a pen
> light. A normal ear would flex easily and has a outer ear opening
> that may have lumps and bumps along the way - but there is a
> definite opening - one you could easily fit an average sized small
> finger into.
>
> And there are some breeders that aren't afraid to publically discuss
> this defect. Check out this web site - under "Comments," which I
> found easily after doing a Dogpile search.
> http://www.andesdandies.com/Kahlua.html
> Perhaps you could give them a call for more info and advice?
>
> Best of luck to you --
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Lisa
>
> Alpaca Atlantic of TN: Full-time Ranchers, Full-time Commitment,
> Full-time Support!
> Manchester, Tennessee
> Phone: (931) 728-6945
>
> Web Site: http://www.Alpaca-Atlantic.com
> E-mail: AlpacaAtlantic@a...
>
>
>
> --- In Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com, "ih_james" <ih_james@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Lisa. Any advise on what to feel for in the mild form?
> I know it must be
> > difficult to describe...
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Jeff Groene
> > Cranston, RI
> > a749970@c...
> >
> > --- In Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Robin Olsen"
> <AlpacaAtlantic@a...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > I've "almost" seen a case of this being passed along in the
> severe
> > > form. Drove half-way across the country two winters back to
> > > purchase the perfect herdsire that had "never had any health
> > > issues." Called about 6 hours out and was told the dam might
> not be
> > > available to view as she and her new cria were just taken to a
> > > hospital to have the cria's ears surgically opened. "And oh, by
> the
> > > way, the boy you're coming to look at also had this surgery --
> as
> > > did his dam." I made a U-turn and went home. I've felt this
> > > condition in animals both in the mild form and severe -- and
> will
> > > personally steer clear.
> > >
> > > Barry -- Question about your "colloidal silver" treatment for
> ear
> > > mites. Which form do you use: ionic silver, silver protein,
> or
> > > true colloidal silver??? And do you flush the ears with it, or
> > > just dab on a cloth (?) and wipe the outer ear canal?
> > >
> > > Warmest Regards,
> > > Lisa Olsen
> > >
> > > Alpaca Atlantic of TN: Full-time Ranchers, Full-time Commitment,
> > > Full-time Support!
> > > Manchester, Tennessee
> > > Phone: (931) 728-6945
> > >
> > > Web Site: http://www.Alpaca-Atlantic.com
> > > E-mail: AlpacaAtlantic@a...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com, Barrie Hanslip
> <bhanslip@s...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Considering the fact that alpaca ears naturally have very
> narrow
> > > canals and
> > > > many "lumps and bumps", I do believe that ear infections are
> not
> > > that
> > > > common. The most likely cause is ear mites leading to
> secondary
> > > infection.
> > > > I have found that washing the ear out with colloidal silver is
> > > remarkably
> > > > successful. I haven't had much success with systemic
> antibiotics.
> > > >
> > > > Barrie Hanslip
> > > > Sooke, BC
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "ih_james" <ih_james@y...>
> > > > To: <Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:00 AM
> > > > Subject: [Alpacasite] Detecting Genetic Collagen Ear Defect
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > As a relative newcomer to the industy I haven't inspected
> that
> > > many alpaca
> > > > > ears, but would
> > > > > be interested in any advice on examining alpacas for the
> > > collagen-type
> > > > > genetic ear defect.
> > > > > Apparently, it is not always clearly expressed in some
> animals
> > > that have
> > > > > passed this defect
> > > > > along.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have read descriptions of narrowed ear canals and various
> > > lumps, bumps,
> > > > > and swelling.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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