RE: [Alpacasite] Help! Safe-guard question

Jay, do NOT use the weight ring. Rather, use the plunger on the
store tube to fill a 20 or 30 ml syringe with a feeding tip with the
paste. Then use THAT syringe to dose. I am assuming that you have
gotten a diagnosis from your vet that you have parasites and that the
vet has used the proper centrifuge test.

That dose is 1 ml of paste per ten lbs. The, about two weeks after
worming, send in a second fecal to make sure you killed what you first saw.

It is not good to routinely worm with Safe-Guard or Panacur. Rather,
they must be used after you see parasites. Routine use only causes
super resistant parasites that no wormer will kill.

Steve H.

At 06:51 AM 11/25/2005, you wrote:
>Steve,
>
>I knew that both Panacur & Safe-Guard were both Fenbendazole based but
>understood or apparently misunderstood that they were given at different
>doses.
>
>Can you extend the math further to the use of the weight ring on the
>application tubes?
>
>Jay & Julie Ward
>AuSable Valley Alpacas
>57 Howard Heights Ln.
>Jay, NY 12941
>518-524-0545 (cell)
>518-946-7640 (home)
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>Jay,
>Panacur and Safe-Guard are both brand names for the chemical named
>fenbendazole (they are the same). This typically comes as a 10%
>paste. The correct dose is 20 mg/kg which, after all the math, comes
>out to 1 ml per ten lbs of alpaca (or llama).
>
>Steve H.
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>At 12:30 AM 11/25/2005, you wrote:
> >Steve,
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> >Does the "triple the weight" dose work for Panacur?
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> >Jay & Julie Ward
> >AuSable Valley Alpacas
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> >Jay, NY 12941
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> >www.ausablevalleyalpacas.com
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com] On
> >Behalf Of Steve Hull, TimberLake Farms. Inc
> >Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 2:14 PM
> >To: Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [Alpacasite] Help! Safe-guard question
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> >The dose "of tripling the weight" is the wrong Safe-guard dose - too
> >
> >low. The correct dose of the 10% paste is one ml of the paste per
> >
> >ten lbs of alpaca. Three consecutive days is exactly correct.
> >
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> >Steve H.
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> >At 08:55 AM 11/24/2005, you wrote:
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> > >Hi, Christine:
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> > >Here's a general rule of thumb for dosing with Safeguard. Take your
> >
> > >alpacas weight, and TRIPLE it, and use that guide on the paste
> >
> > >tube. So, if your alpaca weighs 150 lbs, dose for 450 lbs. If
> >
> > >you're not sure of weights, dose a bit higher - much better in this
> >
> > >case to overdose than underdose. Also, you must do this for 3
> >
> > >consecutive days. I am assuming that they were fecal tested, and
> >
> > >Safeguard is the prescribed medication.
> >
> > >Have a wonderful Thanksgiving - I'm off to see Mom and Dad now, myself!
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> > >Barbara Zachary
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> > >New Age Alpacas
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> > >Atascadero, CA
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> > > From: tfox799947
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> > > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 5:05 AM
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> > > Subject: [Alpacasite] Help! Safe-guard question
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> > > Hello and Happy Thankgiving,
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> > > I just had my alpacas delivered last night, my breeder gave me so much
> >
> > > information...my head is reelling.
> >
> > > But anyway, she told my that 2 of my pregnant females need to be given
> >
> > > Safe-guard because of worms but couldn't remember the dose. Could
> >
> > > someone give that to me? I have Dr. Evans Field Manual, but that says
> >
> > > 9.1 mg/lb, but that doesn't tell me how many turns of the dial. What
> >
> > > kind of worm does that take care of?
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> > > Also, my yearling female has emeria? (sp) and has been prescribed
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> > > Albon twice daily. Can anyone tell me about these parasites?
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> > > Thank you in advance for your assistance. I will be waiting patiently
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> > > for a response so I can medicate the girls...THEN...cook dinner.
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