Re: [Alpacasite] Digest Number 5175

While I won't get into the question of alpaca blood in registered llamas, or
how suri llamas came about, I can answer some questions about the cross.
It can be registered as a cross with ILR. The Magnafire fiasco of two years
ago, the multiple lawsuits and ALSA suspensions for showing that have
followed would make me wary of falsly representing/registering this animal
as a llama. I think someone questioned the parties involved(Stachowski, Reed
and Tellez)is how this particular fraud was uncovered. Go to Llama Life II
for more details in the spring 2003 issue. If the offspring is a male, geld
it and use it as a fiber animal if the fleece is nice enough.
Blood testing is commonly done on breeding animals though it is not
required at this time. After the Magnafire fiasco, a breeder would have to
be an idiot to try the same stunt. The afore mentioned names may not have
meaning to alpaca folks, but the llama community is very familiar with them
(they are currently in the Collectible Llama Association).While most llama
owners will admit that the crosses have occurred in the past, I think the
majority of the alpaca blood in llamas have come from imports that have
somehow passed the screening process. I won't even get into that!
I do know that suri type fiber has been, in the past, an occasional
cropout in heavy/medium fiber animals. The look was fluffy at the time, so
they had to be groomed a lot more. I think the blood of alpacas and llamas
(as well as guanacos and vicunas) have been passed back and forth in South
America in the past. I know some short wooled classics that have been
traced back to guanacos. I don't breed so I have no dogs in any of these
fights. I have had both llamas and alpacas.
The alpaca people have been smart enough to close the registry. If the
llama community did the same, many of the problems would be solved. I am
also a fan of DNA testing of all breeding animals. Just my .02, FWIW.
Susan Ravan

That having been said I do not know the intricate details of the ILR and
how it relates to the suri llama business but if recent activities are
any indication then registering your huarizo as a llama would not be the
first time this has happened and is likely to be rather easy. As I
understand it the ILR does not require blood testing and there is no
requirement to verify what someone put on the registration.

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