[Alpacasite] Re: Question Regarding Eataholic Cria- - 'stripping' teats

Just to clarify, the milk/colostrum we initially pull from the dam
is all given to the cria, we do save a few drops and rub it back on
the teats as a lure for nursing. This was recommended by Toni
Cotton in one of her neonatal classes we attended.

I agree, the first milk is gold. We only milk the dam once unless
otherwise required, I tend to beleive that making sure they get that
first colostrum is what helps get us our consistent 2000+ IgGs.

Paul Kimball
Bluff View Farms LLC
Birchwood, TN

--- In Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com, "andesdandies" <sue@a...> wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> According to Dr. LaRue Johnson's neonatal seminar, you are
correct.
> The VERY FIRST milk is the strongest, each subsequent feeding
> decreases rapidly. He advises against expressing out teats to
start
> them up unless you save it and feed it to that cria (a few drops
is
> ok).
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sue Zelazny
> Andes Dandies, LLC
> http://www.andesdandies.com
> Middleport, NY
>
>
> --- In Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com, Tim Wilson <tpwilson2@a...>
wrote:
> >
> > Rachelle,
> >
> > I do not have any concrete evidence but I suspect that the most
> > colostrum rich milk is likely to be the very first few ounces
that
> the
> > dam produces. This I would guess is best to get inside the cria
> right
> > away (stomach lining closing in 24 hours and all). Would seem to
me
> the
> > most logical thing would be to have the cria nurse naturally and
> get as
> > much of this rich milk as soon as possible.
> >
> > Always learning. I will ask my vet and see what he thinks. Maybe
we
> > should be doing things differently. We've only has to supplement
> one
> > cria and it was nearly 3 months old. And this only lasted for 2
> weeks.
> >
> > As always, thanks for your input.
> >
> > Tim Wilson
> > Sterling Forrest Alpacas
> > Chagrin Falls, OH
> >
> > Wyatt Black wrote:
> >
> > >Hi Tim,
> > >I can think of a reason. We try and routinely milk a few
ounces
> at least out of mom with the birth of every new cria. The reason
is,
> in case there is a need for supplementation, we have the best
thing
> right on hand. If it is a first time mom, we might even go for
more,
> just in case.
> > >Doesn't take anything away from the cria, and it is readily
> available for the little one should the need arise.
> > >Ciao~
> > >Rachelle
> > >
> > >
> > >Wyatt & Rachelle Black
> > >Black Magic Alpaca Ranch
> > >Honesty, Integrity, Quality
> > >6500 Digier Road
> > >P.O. Box 457
> > >Lebec, CA
> > >93243
> > >http://www.blackmagicalpacaranch.com
> > >wyattblack@e...
> > >661-248-6568
> > >
> > >Message: 16
> > >Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 23:31:55 -0500
> > >From: Tim Wilson <tpwilson2@a...>
> > >Subject: Re: Re: Question Regarding Eataholic Cria
> > >
> > >Paul,
> > >
> > >Curious by one of your comments "Mom has plenty of milk, we
> stripped
> > >several CCs early".
> > >
> > >Why would you strip mom of any milk (other than a brief check
to
> see
> > >that the teats are not clogged/blocked and were working)?
> > >
> > >Tim Wilson
> > >Sterling Forrest Alpacas
> > >Chagrin Falls, OH
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >cpqcolor wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Hi Chris:
> > >>
> > >>He was 14.9 at birth, born at noon on Wednesday - when I
weighed
> him
> > >>a little while ago he was already 16.3. Running around, full
of
> > >>piss and vinegar (can I say that on here?). Mom has plenty of
> milk,
> > >>we stripped several CCs early and since, and I've watched him
> nurse
> > >>and he seems to have it down pat - it's hard to tell how much
he
> > >>actually gets each feeding - he's grey so his "milk mouth" is
> harder
> > >>to see :)
> > >>
> > >>Paul
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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