[Alpacasite] Re: Question Regarding Eataholic Cria- - 'stripping' teats

I think you are right on there Tim about the colostrum and timing. You would never want to take all of the colostrum from a new cria, but I think (my thoughts, and our particular vet's) that there is more than just a few ounces of colostrum available on day one. We didn't have to supplement a brand new cria until last year. First time in 6 years, and we had to start the first day as the cria was too weak to suckle. Thanks to this advice from our vet, we had milked out mom a bit right away when we thought there might be trouble and were able to have the vet tube in some of mom's colostrum and then we milked her every day and supplemented what we got with some milk until he developed a good, strong suckle, about a week later. We didn't have to do plasma, he maintained a good Igg with this intervention. It is important to note though that mom was a really great milker.

Since then we milk each mom that we can just in case. Our vet encourages this, and we have dubbed her "The Alpaca Milker" because she can get the most in the shortest amount of time :) I however, am really terrible at it! But, I am the one that has to do it, of course! LOL, can't see my husband under there, all 6' 2" of him.
Take good care,
Rachelle

Wyatt & Rachelle Black
Black Magic Alpaca Ranch
Honesty, Integrity, Quality
6500 Digier Road
P.O. Box 457
Lebec, CA
93243
http://www.blackmagicalpacaranch.com
wyattblack@earthlink.net
661-248-6568

Message: 21
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:53:09 -0500
From: Tim Wilson <tpwilson2@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Question Regarding Eataholic Cria- - 'stripping' teats

Rachelle,

I do not have any concrete evidence but I suspect that the most
colostrum rich milk is likely to be the very first few ounces that the
dam produces. This I would guess is best to get inside the cria right
away (stomach lining closing in 24 hours and all). Would seem to me the
most logical thing would be to have the cria nurse naturally and get as
much of this rich milk as soon as possible.

Always learning. I will ask my vet and see what he thinks. Maybe we
should be doing things differently. We've only has to supplement one
cria and it was nearly 3 months old. And this only lasted for 2 weeks.

As always, thanks for your input.

Tim Wilson
Sterling Forrest Alpacas
Chagrin Falls, OH

Wyatt Black wrote:

>Hi Tim,
>I can think of a reason. We try and routinely milk a few ounces at least out of mom with the birth of every new cria. The reason is, in case there is a need for supplementation, we have the best thing right on hand. If it is a first time mom, we might even go for more, just in case.
>Doesn't take anything away from the cria, and it is readily available for the little one should the need arise.
>Ciao~
>Rachelle
>
>
>Wyatt & Rachelle Black
>Black Magic Alpaca Ranch
>Honesty, Integrity, Quality
>6500 Digier Road
>P.O. Box 457
>Lebec, CA
>93243
>http://www.blackmagicalpacaranch.com
>wyattblack@earthlink.net
>661-248-6568
>
>Message: 16
>Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 23:31:55 -0500
>From: Tim Wilson <tpwilson2@adelphia.net>
>Subject: Re: Re: Question Regarding Eataholic Cria
>
>Paul,
>
>Curious by one of your comments "Mom has plenty of milk, we stripped
>several CCs early".
>
>Why would you strip mom of any milk (other than a brief check to see
>that the teats are not clogged/blocked and were working)?
>
>Tim Wilson
>Sterling Forrest Alpacas
>Chagrin Falls, OH
>
>
>
>cpqcolor wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hi Chris:
>>
>>He was 14.9 at birth, born at noon on Wednesday - when I weighed him
>>a little while ago he was already 16.3. Running around, full of
>>piss and vinegar (can I say that on here?). Mom has plenty of milk,
>>we stripped several CCs early and since, and I've watched him nurse
>>and he seems to have it down pat - it's hard to tell how much he
>>actually gets each feeding - he's grey so his "milk mouth" is harder
>>to see :)
>>
>>Paul

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