Re: [AlpacaTalk] Copper Boluses
Charline Stover
Copper is toxic in alpacas. Unless you measure blood serum levels very
carefully, and know what you are doing, adding copper to the diet will
lead to many problems.
I have formulated diets for several feed mills and most only have 25 ppm
of copper in feed. Horse feeds have 250 ppm. Another reason not to
use horse feed to alpacas . . . .
Dr. Steve Hull
Stephen Hull, MS, PhD, Tom Cameron, DVM & families
"a full service alpaca farm including seminars and consulting"
http://timberlakefarms.net
TimberLake Farms, Inc.
12001 East Waterloo Road
Arcadia, OK 73007
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> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Copper Boluses
> From: traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com
> Date: Sun, May 27, 2012 12:06 pm
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> Hi Laura, The number of things that play part to copper toxicity are complex.The c.Boluses from what I read is only going to cover barber pole worm.The first question after that is:Are you having problems with b.pole,like high fecal counts,anemia alpacas or even deaths and chemical wormers are not effectively controling the issue. Due to all the factors age,level of copper in feed,acitidity of soil,amount of copper intake as youngsters(young obsorb more copper),cop levels in hay,minerals used,draught conditions,even cop water pipes,levels of zinc,and the list goes on much farther then that. How would you ever begin to determine these factors on your herd,it would have to be per animal,The risk to me is way to high. Now if I had animals dying of barber pole and determined by nycropsy that is cause of death.I would do fecals and blood work to determine who in my herd was at risk and nothing else was working then perhaps I would risk the copper as a last stitch effort to save the indivual at risk of dying from barber pole. I would not treat the entire herd with copper boluse.it appears to be very effective in goats for barber pole worm and it is considered safe used on goats from what I have read.Sheep like Alpacas are subject to copper toxicity and it seems to be a last stitch effort to save a sheep like it would be in alpacas. I would not at this time use it on my herd,easy for me to say because I am not having an issue with barbe pole worm.just my thoughts! I am not a vet,I know a few and I have read some studies.I have never used it myself on any livestock.I would possibly used it on goats if need be.I will pose this question on other lists and see what comes back!!Tina Travis in Missouri 636-459-8930 on Elkhorn Alpacas
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> From: "Laura A. Roberts" <laura0554@hughes.net>
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> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 11:08:15
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> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Copper Boluses
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> Hi,
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> I am beginning a miniature dairy goat herd and have learned about
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> copper boluses for parasite control. The theory behind them sounds
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> excellent and with Barber Pole worms being such a threat, it made me wonder
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> if alpacas and/or llamas could handle them.
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> I am interested in hearing from anyone who has actually used copper
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> boluses on their camelids. I realize it is a risky venture if done
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> improperly in the wrong amount and copper toxicity is a huge issue, but if
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> anyone has used them, I would like to hear of their experience.
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> Thanks, folks!
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> Laura
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> Laura Roberts
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> R Half Pint Farm
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> Spotsylvania, VA
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