Re: [AlpacaTalk] Hope someone can give me some answers regarding grubs
Hi Heather,
There are several native species that are an inch or longer.
Laurel
The Shouvlins
Bluebird Hills Farm
3617 Derr Road
Springfield, Ohio 45503
937-206-3936
www.bluebirdhills.com
bluebirdhills@voyager.net
> I considered that, too, Laurel, but the dung beetles I've seen are
> quite small. This is why I recommended having them identified before
> setting out to destroy them. Even if they aren't dung beetles, they
> may be beneficial or at least benign, in which case there's no reason
> to destroy them.
>
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> Heather
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> On Mar 25, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Bluebird Hills Farm wrote:
>
>> Whoa Guys,
>> Wait a minute!!!!
>> What you likely have is a MAJOR asset to your pasture. These grubs
>> are very likely Dung Beetles. There are several species and I have
>> been trying to figure out how to increase our populations and
>> perhaps even raising them for sale to other folks who have pasture
>> animals.
>>
>> These guys take poop underground vastly improving issues with
>> parasites and flies.
>> We have two different species a very large one and a smaller one. I
>> have already, with the warm weather, seen both species actively
>> breaking up manure and burying it. They eat pooo, not roots etc.
>>
>> Do a search on dung beetles and you will quickly consider them your
>> allies!!!
>> Laurel
>> The Shouvlins
>> Bluebird Hills Farm
>> 3617 Derr Road
>> Springfield, Ohio 45503
>> 937-206-3936
>> www.bluebirdhills.com
>> bluebirdhills@voyager.net
>>
>> > While there are biological controls that can be applied to the
>> pastures,
>> > it will be quite costly if you have a fair amount of land. (BT or
>> > bacillus thurogenensis) (sp?) This is the same bacteria found in
>> mosquito
>> > dunks. I think finding them and digging them out will be quite an
>> > undertaking as well. I would suggest that you simply allow the
>> grubs to
>> > mature into beetle and that you set up the Japanese Beetle traps.
>> The
>> > attractant in the traps will attract all of the beetles, not just
>> the
>> > Japanese beetles. You will never eliminate all of them, but you
>> can reduce
>> > the numbers. We have used beetle traps for the last 3 years and
>> we have
>> > noticed a marked decrease in beetles and grubs.
>> >
>> > Roger and Dede Crout
>> > Dragonfly Alpacas, LLC
>> > Marydel, MD
>> > Www,dragonflyalpacas.com
>> > 410-482-7794
>> >
>> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>> >
>> > -----Original message-----
>> >
>>
From: Deborah Russell <russhill2002@yahoo.com>
>> > To: "AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com" <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Sun, Mar 25, 2012 20:08:16 GMT+00:00
>> > Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Hope someone can give me some answers
>> regarding
>> > grubs
>> >
>> > The best and safest thing to do with the grubs is dig them out
>> and either
>> > feed them to some chickens or just smash them. Â They will morph
>> into
>> > beetles and that will be in the near future. Â So if you do
>> nothing they
>> > will just morph into beetles. Â Personally I would not worry
>> about them.
>> > Â I do have chickens and when I find some of the large June bug
>> grubs I
>> > give the chickens a treat. Â
>> > I would not use a pesticide at all. Â
>> > Â
>> > Debbie Hill Russell
>> > Fredericksburg, TX
>> > Russell Hill Ranch
>> > russhill@beecreek.net
>> > http://russellhillranch.blogspot.com/
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >
>>
From: jennymt1402002 <jennymt1402002@yahoo.com>
>> > To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 2:55 PM
>> > Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Hope someone can give me some answers
>> regarding
>> > grubs
>> >
>> > We were out in the pasture and noticed when we dug up some dirt
>> that he
>> > had huge grubs in the dirt. We then went to our poop pile that we
>> had been
>> > composting and was digging in it and rotating the dirt and it is
>> infested
>> > with grubs.
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any idea on what we could use to get rid of the
>> grubs
>> > without hurting our alpacas. We can keep them penned up while
>> cleaned up
>> > the corral and then put them in the corral when we took care of
>> their
>> > paddocks. Just need some idea on what we could use to get rid
>> them without
>> > harm to alpacas.
>> >
>> > Hope someone has some idea.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance
>> >
>> > Carla
>> > Country Home Alpacas
>> > Mcpherson Kanas
>> >
>> >
>> >
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