RE: [AlpacaTalk] Cria

 

 

HI Jim,

The BEW crias do NOT always come from piebald x tuxedo grays.  Last year we bred a Tuxedo gray with dark eyes from a dark eyed line to a solid color girl (med. Brn) and yes, I looked between her toes, under her tail, on her underbody and teats---when I say "solid", I mean it.  We got a gorgeous blue eyed male with spectacular white fleece---and he is NOT deaf in the least.  Yes, icy blue eyes.  He is good sized and has superlative snow white fleece.  Momma is a solid brown with dark eyes….and I have 3 generations of her antecedents, no blue eyes there either.  So, BEW can come from other combinations…and it can come without deafness.

 

I do have a blue eyed gray girl who is a  color champion---and we always breed her to a solid colored dark male or another tuxedo gray male---and we have never gotten a BEW from her. 

 

The combination that seems MOST likely to throw BEW is white spot to gray or white spot to a blue eyed animal.  Now, all blue eyes are not a problem.  Many solid colored animals (e.g. fawn or brown or black solid color) can have blue in the eye or be blue eyed without any risk of BEW.  Prejudice against Blue eyes is rampant, whether or not there is a problem.  Better education would allow folks to use blue eyed animals in their breeding programs without worry about deafness.  What is sad is that many of the blue eyed animals seem to have some of the best fleeces, both in crimp and in fineness.  We need to carefully assess each animal used in the breeding program we design---building on their strengths and avoiding doubling up on their weaknesses.

 

Allison

 

Allison E. Moss-Fritch

New Moon Alpacas

350 Cloquallum Road

Elma, WA  98541-9440

360/861-8584 home; cell 360/470-9317

aemoss17@comcast.net

http://www.newmoonalpacas.com

 

 

 

 

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jim gregoryk
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 8:04 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Cria

 

 

Carla,

 

I spent weeks researching blue-eyed deaf.   After my male was born.   They always come from white and white piebald  and grey with white face (piebald again) The fiber is the softest I ever felf it was like angora rabbit. and spins like a dream. 

 

Breeding:  not one person recommended breeding him. Several breeders of blue eyed white hearing alpaca said as long as he was bred to a solid he would throw beautiful cria.  The university said he as a genetic defect and would be be recognized by ARI or CLAA.  so he is a geld pet.  He is love by everyone and anyone.  His fiber is growing back just a soft and angora-like as when he was born.

 

Hope this helps

 

Jim

 

From: jennymt1402002 <jennymt1402002@yahoo.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:46 AM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Cria

 

We just had our 5th cria born here on our farm. She is a beautiful white girl with bright blue eyes and we have researched this quite a bit and found that 80% of these type of crias are deaf. Sure enough she is deaf. She is outgoing and all the females watch out for her. Her mama has had 3 other crias before her. I wonder if anyone here has had this problem before and if so, do you think she will be good to breed her or just use for fiber?

Don't know anyone personally that has ever had this, just found online information.

Carla Terry
Country Home Alpacas
Mcpherson Kansas 67460

 

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