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Friday, January 28, 2011

Re: [AlpacaTalk] RE:corn

 

Well Tina, I must have the same amount of time on my hands since I'm following the thread... :/

Dede Crout
Dragonfly Alpacas LLC
Marydel, MD

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Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] RE:corn

 

     DeDe It started with alfalfa fasy went to corn & scratch grain.I actually changed yhe heading to corn. But over yhe last week or more several sites & most of the same people have been posting with this debate.See I have way too much time on my hands being stuck in for some many hours.Health reasons......



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On Jan 27, 2011 4:38 PM, hrpufnstuf13@yahoo.com <hrpufnstuf13@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Actually, someone was saying they feed chicken scratch to alpacas, that's how this thread began...

Dede Crout
Dragonfly Alpacas LLC
Marydel, MD

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Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] RE:corn

 

              The Drs on site talked a couple weeks ago about the risk & the research showing corn as a poor choice. That is how the alfalfa post got started.......



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On Jan 27, 2011 11:35 AM, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Dr Chris Cebra at Oregon State has been lecturing for years about the problems of feeding corn to livestock, especially camelids. We lost a color champion solid dark rose grey female to a perforated ulcer on her first birthday when we fed the locally made alpaca pellet, that was fed by a large number of farms in the region. The corn and other mystery "grain by-products" or "agricultural by-products" are just not good food for alpacas. Actually not good food for any livestock. 

After this death occurred, my mom had a custom feed made based on alfalfa, with only enough grain to act as a binder to keep the pellet form. 

Yes, people will tell you that all of those grain products must be fine feed, otherwise why would they feed it? Well, cattle only get grain in the feed lots during the last month or so before slaughter. And while they are in those feed lots, they are quite sick and need to be dosed with antibiotics to keep them alive until slaughter. 

I have seen many studies showing this by-product or that, are quality animal feeds. I have even seen papers saying that poultry litter is excellent livestock feed. 

This topic has been discussed at length here and other discussion groups. 

One more quick point regarding beet pulp, I don't think it's necessary to feed it for the purpose of adding fiber to the diet, hay itself is really chock full of fiber. And I have read that many alpacas are allergic to it. And certainly the product treated with molasses is not advised at all.

Simpler is better. If we did not have our custom feed, we would feed nothing but our 2nd cut orchard grass hay with free choice Stillwater 104 mineral/vitamin mix, and some dairy grade alfalfa, no more than 1 lb per head per day.

Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

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