Re: [AlpacaTalk] Help Please
Hi Jim, Tina, Heather,
As an allopathic physician (and a Chines acupuncturist), I often hear something along the lines of: "Oh, I know what the problem is; I should be a doctor". On occasion, the first part of that statement happens to be true, and is worthy of acknowledgement. We can all continue to learn from others, regardless of their background. As to the second half of that statement, that part is, in fact, earned, not legislated or conferred. I tend to defend the hard-fought knowledge base of my colleagues and of other professionals, as well as craftspeople and anyone else who has dedicated him- or herself to a particular field of endeavor. There are very knowledgeable alpaca breeders and not so knowledgable vets, just as there are very astute lay people and "not-so-bright" physicians. I would tend to hire a crack mechanic for repair of a Formula-1 race car, not the kid from the local muffler shop who changes tires, but also works in the "automotive field". I could go on and on with the analogies, but you get my drift. I was simply tipping a hat to expertise. There are certainly exceptions to every rule.
(P.S. I am not sensitive---I prefer to tell folks that I am a farmer and a "body-repair-man". Mostly, people other than my friends don't know what I do for a living.)
Dave and Esther Friedman
Adirondack Alpacas
"From the Womb to the Loom"
9568 Old Stage Road
Remsen, NY 13438
315-831-3040
Adirondack Alpacas
"From the Womb to the Loom"
9568 Old Stage Road
Remsen, NY 13438
315-831-3040
On Oct 2, 2010, at 5:10 AM, jim gregoryk wrote:
Dave,I think the world of my vets and they are knowledgeable of alpacas. They are the first to tell me to check with other alpaca breeders to see what they and or their vets would do in certain situations. If I sounded flippant it was not meant that way. Thanks
From: David Friedman <alpacas@roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Help Please
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 10:32 PM
Hi Jim,With all due respect, I wouldn't sell vets short. Most of them know a lot more about animal husbandry than the average alpaca breeder.Dave
Dave and Esther Friedman
Adirondack Alpacas
"From the Womb to the Loom"
9568 Old Stage Road
Remsen, NY 13438
315-831-3040
On Oct 1, 2010, at 9:36 PM, jim gregoryk wrote:
Thanks Heather, you are right I am checking very frequently even though the little bugger is getting harder by the minute to catch. YEECCH is a very nice way to put it. I still am alittle queezy over it. I did call the vet, okay I am a little OCD. He said I did everything he would recommend. But I know that most of you all know more than most vet.Thanks again
From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Help Please
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 9:30 PM
Let me just get this out my system, and I would do it with my own animal, too... Yecchhh.I'd definitely re-treat the navel with Betadine or Nolvasan, whichever is your preference, which you said you did.I've never seen actual fly eggs on an animal except for a female who suffered a horrible uterine tear during a dystocia which required J-lube and lots of it. She died 4 days later. But this doesn't sound like it's even remotely comparable.Maybe also just keep an eye on the cria. Even wash the entire blanket or at least belly with Betadine or Nolvasan. And in my opinion, even though I am opposed to the over-use of antibiotics, I am not averse to using them as often as needed with my alpacas. I don't know if you want to call a vet for a consult or not. I trust our local vets but I think their fees are really high.I'd say you're on top of things. And if you're like me, you'll be checking frequently. :)
HeatherHeather ZelenyWhite Lotus AlpacasOregonHolistic Farm and Elite Fleece
On Oct 1, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Jim wrote:
This past Thursday I had a snow white blue eyed male cria born. Everything has been going terrific until this evening when I was giving him his evening pet and rubbing I felt knots in fiber on his stomach, when I investigated it was FLY EGGS!! Immediately checked for wounds or dried blood and checked his navel for infection. Nothing. So I combed out the eggs and spray both mama an cria with on herbal fly spray, retreated the navel with betadine. Is there anything else I should do? What on earth would cause this to happen? I would really appreciate any advice on this. Jim
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