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Friday, March 26, 2010

Re: [AlpacaTalk] what to use?

 

And by the way, yes, that's how I understand anything I read about these prion diseases. It seems that if you ingest infected tissue, you are then very susceptible to contracting a spongiform encephalopathy. 


We really don't know that it's only pork lard that's in the Ultra 24 SavaCaf replacer, if it was ONLY pork lard used exclusivelyt, that would be what was listed in the ingredients. However, since the ingredients list "animal fat", that means that they buy whatever is the cheapest animal fat on the market on a given day and make the ingredients they've purchased fit the GA (guaranteed analysis) so they don't have to keep re-doing the GA and the ingredient list. Could be pork fat, could be beef fat, could be anything. Could even be dog or cat fat. Those are also sent to rendering plants.

I stand by my vow never to use this product again, and since it is not more economical than fluid cow milk and the whipping cream and yogurt that I add, I see absolutely no reason to use it for any reason.


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Mar 26, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Susan Forman wrote:


For what it's worth, mad cow or some form of it exists for most if not all mammals. I think I saw where it occurs about 1 in every 100,000 deer, maybe it was elk. It can and does pop up spontaneously among humans (Jacov ???) and a lot of other species. Several years ago, an outbreak on a mink ranch (and can't remember if it was the US or Russia) allowed the first decent study of the disease. That's all I know. I'm not going to go back and fact check, but I'm pretty sure I have most of that right...and indeed, last I read it appears that all animal products from an infected animal are capable of spreading the disease, but the brain is THE worst and most infective....read about Kuru.......thing is I wouldn't be at all surprised if we'd have a case in alpacas that just occurred spontaneously one of these days......But when I read what I read it was over 10 years ago, so I'm sure there's been further understanding...Can't remember the book I read, but it was a fascinating read....
 
Susan
 
Susan Forman
Dewey Morning Alpacas
Washington Court House, OH 43160
740-636-1899
http://www.alpacanation.com/deweymorning.asp
Home of Huey, Louie, and Dewey!
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Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] what to use?

 

http://www.kyrieology.com/drupal/wwje/madcow


"Some pigs in the United States may be infected with a porcine form of mad cow disease," according to an alarming study by U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) scientists that has recently come to light.


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Mar 25, 2010, at 12:02 PM, barngirrl@aol.com wrote:

I personally wouldn't purposely feed any animal product to a herbivore.  Isn't that how mad cow disease started?
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA
http://www.openherd.com/FarmPage.aspx?Farm=433




Susan Forman
Dewey Morning Alpacas
Washington Court House, OH 43160
740-636-1899
http://www.alpacanation.com/deweymorning.asp
Home of Huey, Louie, and Dewey!


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