[AlpacaTalk] Re: Male alpaca in trouble
Hello Y'all,
I am borrowing works internet to send this since my compter crashed.
Thought I would give an update on Coco.
He has now had his worming treatments and had little change in stability until I started the Vitamin B shots. Within two days of B shots he was walking straight and holding his neck and head much more normal. No clue if the worming did the job or the Vitamin B did the trick but he is looking much better. And moving much faster again!
On a side note, none of them will let me get nearer than 5 ft now. Thye seem to have learned all my tricks and where the moveable fences sections are so they can't be trapped. I am amazed at how smart tehy are, they anticipate my moves. W/o family and friends over the weekend, I don't think I would have got thelast shots/paste into them. They did not like the shots or the paste in the mouth treatments! They do look very sporting in their blaze orange vests I am making them wear. It is modern gun deer season here in Kentucky. They are being kept on the back of my property away from the road as well.
Thanks for all your help.
Ken
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> Ken,
> Please go to the following link for Sub-Q info and the location of where they are administered. http://www.owning-
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> Some owners will deworm the herd every 21-24 days, while others are dewormed once a year. I would recommend discussing this with a vet that has some farming/cattle experience. You might consider contacting other alpaca farms in your area if you have any about the type of deworming program that they follow and what they use. Just go to http://www.alpacana
> to send you the information that I have. This is from the same book that I sent you information about Basic Care and Pasture & Hay. Let us know if we can be of further help or you would like info sent. I would recommend contacting a vet for Coco. Many are more than willing to work out payments and they are very understanding. Best of luck.
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> Susan Kruger
> Oak Hill Alpacas
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> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Ken <bushwacker37@
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> From: Ken <bushwacker37@
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Male alpaca in trouble
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 1:17 PM
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> Thank you all for the advise. No real change in Coco, he is eating well and mobile, still leans and holds his head to the left.
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> I do not have a vet that is alpaca knowledgable. And worse yet, two weeks ago I joined the ranks of unemployed. My x-company saw fit to lay me off only after working me six weeks without pay and dening two weeks vacation pay as well. So financially I am unable to pay a vet for a farm visit. I will look for a source for the Banamine and Thiamine. And will start them on the pelleted Safeguard I bought. I have a reusable needle to draw the Ivomec from the bottle, so I guess tonight I will get them into the shearing stall I built.
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> My questions are:
> What does "Sub-Q" mean ?
> Where are the shots administered ?
> Do I understand correctly that you give the entire herd a shot once a month year round ? My animals are even less trusting ever since I sheared them ! They may not even come for feed if I start sticking them with a neede once a month !
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> As to leaving the haulters on... They are loose fit and I watch the area for issues. However, getting a hold of any of my animals is impossible unless I get a hand on the halter. A neck hold mean they drag me away. They were wild when I got them and are just now willing to eat from my hand if approached carefully. But petting them is a rare and fleeting treat.
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> Ken
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> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com, "Susan Forman" <susan@> wrote:
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> > Ken:
> > The protocol for treating M-worm is oral safeguard, injected banamine, thiamine, and Ohio State also gave my girl (last year) an antibiotic. Note that I said that is the TREATMENT. Please call your vet since I am not a vet or even a tech. Oral ivomec will do nothing in any situation that I am aware of. PREVENTION is carried out using sub-q ivomec on a monthly basis of anywhere between about 1 cc per 80-100 lbs. Please note there is a big difference between treatment and prevention. Ivomec does not cross what is called the blood brain barrier so that it does not work once the m-worm has found it's way to anywhere near the brain or spinal cord. However, while the worm is still migrating from the gut to the brain, it does work. Hence, it is prevention. I would dose the other alpacas (and even this one) with ivomec. The one that's all funky I'd immediately give safeguard to at least at the rate of 1cc per 10 lbs......again, I am not a vet and urge you to
> contact someone who is qualified to make a good diagnosis and give you the latest info on treatment. the kind of symptoms you outline I imagine could also be an injury or other things, but I doubt that safeguard or ivomec would cause any harm. Even banamine and thiamine are fairly safe drugs if given at the proper dosage, but it sounds like this guy needs a look see by a vet.
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> > Good luck with him and let us know how he gets on.
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> > Susan
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