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Wednesday, September 16, 2009

RE: [AlpacaTalk] Breeders and references

 

Laura, you had a really bad experience, in many ways,  you had a bad experience with  the breeder the you had a bad experience with that alpaca and you had a bad experience with the family relations dealing with the problem.  I don't know if you can do anything  legally or financially about it at this point.  I am guessing not.  Try to take all the learning experiences you can from it, use it to better you and all the other alpacas breeders you have shared with.  Seek Justice if you can and move on.  Anger and dwelling on it just eats you up and
sours so much.  I really hope the breeders step up to the plate and refund you initial costs and also the costs of the vet putting that alpaca down.  If not well in the long run, your communication the story to others will certainly come back to them in the end. Try to find peace in that.
Robin
Richard and Robin Vasquez
R & R Ranch LLC
325B Denio Avenue
Gilroy,CA 95020
Phone: 408-842-5233/ Cell 408-710-0676/710-7911
 
       A Ranch of Distinction
www.LoveThemAlpacas.com
                          LTA
 


--- On Wed, 9/16/09, Laura A. Roberts <laura0554@hughes.net> wrote:

From: Laura A. Roberts <laura0554@hughes.net>
Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] Breeders and references
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 6:18 PM

 

            I forgot to tell you that I had just attended a Marty McGee clinic on May 16 & 17 – we purchased this package on June 5th……..also, Marty is one of the professionals that told me to return him.  She doesn't feel gelding helps when they are aggressive with people.  She agreed the seller should have taken him back but didn't want to get into the ethics issue on her forum. 

 

            I was frustrated by all of this, especially when people assumed that because I was new at alpacas I didn't know anything.  I have a healthy respect for all animals, including our horses, goats, dogs, cats, chickens, etc………but I don't fear them.  Unfortunately, I did have fear for this male alpaca after the first incident.

 

             The other two boys from her farm are nice boys, although much more pushy than my other two boys.  Her girls are pushier than my other girls, too.  I suspect they were given treats and spoiled and never really treated like livestock.  That's not to say livestock can't be treated once in awhile…….but more the exception than the rule. I have worked with the two intact males quite a bit and they have gotten a Frisbee nose whack on more than one occasion when they wouldn't back off and got too pushy in "my space".  They have responded well and have shown no aggressive tendencies towards any of us. 

 

            I guess all of this has been a hard lesson for us and I still feel angry.  Not so much over the money, but that we had to experience this so new into the business.  Our whole family experience this- including our 13 year old daughter and 16 year old son.    

           

Laura Roberts

R Half Pint Farm

Spotsylvania, VA 

 


From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com [mailto: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com ] On Behalf Of Allison Moss-Fritch
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:45 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] Breeders and references

 

 

Hi Laura,

 

Well, yes, there are some folks who just don't have common sense.  I suppose a "Marty McGee" approach might have helped, but with livestock experienced folks, when an animal is not trustworthy, then you don't keep him.  I doubt he was giving prior owner kisses…and if he was, then I figure he was an over handled male…either way:  it is their fault and they should have taken him back and returned the money.  In court, if you had asked for rescission, (getting money back and animal being returned) it would likely have been granted

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