Re: [AlpacaTalk] RE: Odd behavior
It is possible that she is pregnant and in pre-labor. However, many dystocias won't present as actual labor. You won't see the "alien under the tail" but you will have a very uncomfortable dam. If it's a torsion (we've had 2) we don't notice any pushing by the dam, since the birth canal is not free. WE also had a caudal presentation, and there was no pushing there, either. In those cases, we saw the dam lying on her side with the head up, legs to the side, sometimes extended, sometimes not.
<<i have to agree with Heather - this is cause for alarm - can you get
her into a cool place and shut her in? like a large barn stall?and keep
her cool?
wendy>>>
Well this is not what I was hoping to hear. But why I brought it to the
group. I have considered leaving her in the barn at night as she is
*very* reluctant to go out to the front pasture where I am keeping
everyone at night and just hangs behind at the barn not following as the
others do as I lead them over to the front pasture for the night
(coyotes coyotes coyotes - just last night one right across the road
screaming like a banshee. Just a stone's throw from my front
pasture....where I have them to keep them safer! And I have concluded
that all the work, trouble and expense of putting up the hot wire around
the bottom of the field fence is totally useless. When I brought my
german shepard out last night in the hopes of giving that coyote pause
and consideration of going on down the road, he ran right thru an
extension I put on the hot wire to block off the blueberry field from
the horses. It stops the horses and they turn back, but the GSD just
ran right thru it. He got a bit tangled up but just backed up and kept
trying until he figured out how to jump over it. He bumped it several
times. He never so much as squealed. so knowing I have this hot wire
all around my alpacas gave me no cause for peace last night.)
Allie wants to stay in the barn, or more precisely doesn't want to
follow me out to the pasture to join her buddies where they always spend
the night. Just hangs back at the barn. Tho in the day she has been
going out to the wooded area where the large fan is. I considered
leaving her there and trusting her judgment as to where she wants to be,
but it is too far away from my bedroom windows for me to hear if there
is a predator problem. Last night I stayed up till 3AM doing the
frequent walk about ;letting the coyote know I am here and watching.
Then finally went to bed and turned off the fans so I could hear outside
better. All was well this morning.....and then I saw a fox cutting
across the clearing in the back and headed for a little piece of woods
close to my back pasture (where the chickens, ducks, guineas are). Sigh.
The weather has cooled down a but, at least for a few days, the humidity
is gone so that makes 90 bearable. She stays in front of the fan.
Otherwise she seems fine. She is eating hay, chewing her cud, drinking
water, and eating her grain IF I stand there holding the bowl for her.
Actually this morning I took it and put it in the barn and then she ate
on her own.
And yes, she has been shorn.
<<< Can you use your watch and count the number of breaths she takes in
30 secs
and double it, pain and heat can increase resp rate. (as can a number of
other things, infection etc.)>>>
I have noticed her breathing as her nostrils are really flaring as she
breathes. I forgot to mention that. Just standing still, her nostrils
are really; flaring. I am headed out now to count. Thanks for the
numbers to go by.
As Heather mentioned - I don't have a vet; only a horse vet that I have
used in extreme emergencies and she always makes it quite clear that she
is not interested in "learning a new species". so not really an option
for me; she would just say she doesn't have a clue what to do or what to
look for.
Do you all think giving some probiotics would be helpful? I have some
and thought I would give her a tube today. Also have some sort of Power
Aid type stuff out there that I have never used. I am going to go look
at it again. I bought it last summer to give in the extreme heat to
help them cope, but I never did. I think I recall it is electrolytes,
vit, minerals, etc.
On the possibility of her being in labor - that would be nice and what I
was hoping for; but I no longer feel that is the case. Besides, this
one was always cranky as could be whenever she was pregnant. She is not
cranky, just sort of "off".
Thanks, Janice
hoping these Pyr grow up before a coyote gets anyone. I penned them up
last night as they, at 11 wks, are no match for a coyote. I have been
leaving them free (in the pasture) at night when the birds are put up
and the pacas are in the front pasture so they can't get into any
trouble with the livestock, but hopefully give that fox pause. But no
way am I leaving them out when the coyote is screaming that close to the
house. And like I said that hot wire is NOT going to stop a coyote :-(.
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