[AlpacaTalk] Re: no climb fence
Hello,
Just a message about electric fencing and Alpacas! These are two
instances where electric fencing on the alpaca side of the main border
fence didn't work at 2 different farms!
1. The alpacas at the first farm must not of felt the electric charge
thru their fleece, probably never even touched it with their noses and
thru the wire they went, which lead to severe injuries from the wire
wrapping and cutting thru anything that made it get tighter.
2. The next farm had hot wire, not sure why along the bottom on the
alpaca side also, boys started to wrestle and fight and one of there
beautiful boys got tangled up in the hot wire and died from
electrocution.
Sorry to post such terrible things but keep asking questions and your
animals will be safer for it.
Most of the farms I deal with use the 2"x4" no climb fence 5' to 6' in
height some with hot wire on the outside especially at the ground level.
High tensile fence will not stop the predators from entering your
pastures plus alpacas like horse and goats think the grass is greener on
the other side and they too will slip thru with no problem, since when
they are in the cushed position they are not very tall and they can roll
right under.
Just some thoughts.
Mary Jane Fox
Up-Close-and-
Kirtland, OH
216-272-8887
--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
>
> <<<<To echo what has been already said here, no climb is so that
horses
> etc can't climb the fence. Actually, no climb fence helps those
> predators that can't jump over or mash it down climb. It really is
kind
> of a misnomer as a lot of people assume no climb means nothing can
climb
> it and gives them a false sense of security.>>>
>
>
> Ahhh....that was my impression when my friend was telling me that they
> had *finally* put up this no climb fence to keep the goats in and the
> predators out. As I looked at it all I could think was that it looked
> nice and sturdy enough for anything to climb over! She could not tell
> me why it was no climb, but was very proud of it. I have been puzzled
> by that misnomer ever since. Thanks for clearing it up.
>
> I am borrowing money (while I still can!) to fence and the more I look
> into fencing the more confused I get as to what would be the best
choice
> - and the least expensive.
>
> The alpacas have done fine for 10 yrs with a cheap welded wire fence
and
> metal fence posts. No problems at all with them. It is not a
perimeter
> fence and they are close to the house. I am not fenced totally, but
am
> fenced across the front and down 1/2 of each side of the
> property....
> with this welded wire.
>
> But I have been having a lot of trouble with the horse fence and since
> my husband died 2.5 yrs ago have had to pay someone to repair, add to,
> and generally do everything we could think of short of starting all
over
> again, at least 4x now. The horses just push over everything. Mainly
> because their pasture is dirt and they are trying to get to the grass
> outside their fence. so I thought I would just start letting them out
> to graze around for a few hours a day - and save on some hay expense.
> It is a long way to find the end of the fence line. Took them maybe 2
> wks tops to find it and before I knew it I was having to go get them
off
> the main road. I live on a one lane, but that wasn't good enough for
> them, no they had to keep on trucking up to the main road. So they
had
> to go back into their dirt pasture.....
> sitting here going to waste :-(.
>
> I have been told over and over and over to put hot wire up and that
will
> stop them. I haven't wanted to do it. susan's story about the dead
> sparrows is enough to make me not want to do it; not to mention dogs,
> cats, and children. And I have bluebird houses up all over the horse
> pasture. But apparently that is about my only affordable choice.
> Barbed wire has been suggested many times, but personally I jsut don't
> see it keeping the horses back. I think they would still lean over it
> and I would just be doctoring wounds all the time.
>
> I am also planning on getting some dairy goats and this fence will
> continue from the horse fence up across the clearing and to the woods
> for them. I keep looking at all the options and just cannot decide
what
> is the best, and again, least expensive best. This fence will also
come
> around and connect with a new alpacas area I am planning, so I can
> rotate them off their pasture, and also make it easier to keep the
male
> separated. The goats will be with the horses in the day time, but
with
> the alpacas at night as that is as safer area - close to the house -
> from predators.
>
> I seem to have narrowed it down to woven wire with electic wire top
and
> bottom or 5 strand wire with 3 hot - and I think that is the least
> expensive and easiest. Now with these stories, I just don't know what
> to do. I have a lot of ground to cover and cannot afford the high
> tensile wire all the way around. Besides I know people with horses
that
> used that and they said it didn't slow them (the horses) down a
> whit....only their pocketbooks (the owners), so I gather it is rather
> expensive. Up in the woods it will be next to impossible to roll out
a
> large roll of woven or wire fence, so the 5 strand seemed the way to
go,
> but I know I will not find the time to constantly walk that fence line
> to check it for shorts.
>
> What will electric wire do to cats? Will it kill them the first time
> they touch it? Dogs? What about young children, or even older
> children? If it is dangerous to these creatures I cannot use it.
What
> are my other (affordable) options for keeping goats and horses where
> they belong and predators where *they* belong?
>
> Any thoughts, suggestions?
>
> Thanks! Janice
> PS Is there a difference in the woven wire fence and the "no climb"
> fence that is woven wire?
>
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