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Tuesday, March 03, 2009

[AlpacaTalk] injections

Finally coming down the home stretch of getting my health care protocol
down pat and placing the order today - finally after months of delays
and distractions! The very last item on my list is the needles.

A few more questions:

I am rereading the info from the list about giving injections and it
seems that 1/2 inch needles are the preferred ones here - tho the 1"
seems to be the standard one that everyone else everywhere, including
vets, use?

Susan wrote about giving SubQs in the "elbow". Is that what you still
do Susan? Does anyone else here do that? And if so what is your
opinion on that method/location? And do you use the 1/2 " needle there?
I assume you would tent here as it would be too easy to hit the bone
in such a place?

<<<Tenting the skin with
a needle long enough to poke through the other side anyway just isn't a
very efficient method of giving shots. >>>>

I think Heather wrote this. So would you use the 1/2" needle if you are
tenting the skin? This is the method I have always used and find it
quite difficult, expecially before shearing, to know that I have skin
and not just fiber. It takes me forever to find enough skin to "roll"
(leaning over the animal from the other side, re Marty) and the animal
gets very antsy with my constant pulling and poking around. Even when I
think I have found enough loose skin, I have missed way too many times,
and often even if I haven't obviously missed, I wonder if I really
actually got the meds into the animal.

I really like the poke and plunge method that someone described - I
think it was Heather. That sounds SO simple and quick. If it is as
easy as it sounds I will no longer dread and put off the injections.
But I would be nervous to do the rump as I am told there are so many
nerves, etc back there that you can accidently hit. Wouldn't the
shoulder area be safer? Or the elbow?

Thanks! Janice.....thinking I should go ahead and order 100 1/2"
needles, but will wait for confirmation from this extremely knowledgable
and informative group :-).

PS One last thing:

<<<<We use a fresh needle for every injection. One, you don't want to put a
used needle back into the sterile bottle of med, and second, you don't
want to risk passing any blood borne anything throughout your herd, if
it is at all avoidable. But the sheath can be re-used indefinitely, I
believe. >>>>

From Marty I learned to just leave a needle in the ivermec bottle to
draw up into the syringe each time, then twist on a clean needle for
each injection. That way the med stays sterile and you don't have
ivermec on the needle which will start stinging before you even start
injecting. Needles are so cheap, I would never reuse and was always
having to remind my vet NOT to, I insisted on a clean fresh needle for
each injection, but if I wasn't watching him VERY closely he would
"cheat". I do reuse the same syringe tho. Any problems with that that
I am not aware of?

THANKS!

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