Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: everything! :)
Hi Heather,
I would agree with Kathy. Most of the time twins are aborted and not
carried to full term. Not many cases of twins making it all the way and
surviving, but it does happen from time to time. I can't think of more
than 4 sets of twins in our industry that have made it so it's quite rare
that they make it. Most are lost in mid to late pregnancy. I'm not a vet
but I don't see her problem as a progesterone problem either. These
animals just are "built" to successfully carry twins. When a vet tells me
he/she sees twins (which doesn't happen often), I'm not a "happy camper"
because I know how it will most likely end.
Sorry to hear about your loss.
By the way, Happy New Years Everyone!
Libby
Libby Forstner
Magical Farms, Inc.
Litchfield Ohio
(330)667-3233
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Heather, My first thought wouldn't point me at a progesterone problem with
a girl that repeatedly aborts twins after successfully carrying
singles....
I'm pretty sure that aborting twins is more common than successfully
birthing them. I am sorry for your loss though...I hope the dam is doing
OK. Kathy
Kathy & Earl Klay
Jefferson Laurel Farm
8181 Havens Road
Blacklick, Ohio 43004
(614) 855-9194
--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@westwind
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From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@westwind
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: everything! :)
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 1:45 AM
Hi everyone!
Well I'm sorry I haven't replied much on the past few days. I'm
really working hard on my fleeces! I finished some fawn I carded up a
week or so ago and finally have 160 yards of 2 ply yarn, 5.7 oz.,
about 10-12 wpi. I really hope my speed improves!
To answer about halter training, I don't know, I don't think there is
one right way. I do think there are plenty of wrong ways, though. But
mostly, I think going slow and gentle is the best. Definitely don't
leave the halter on when you're not working with them. Yes, there
will be thrashing and bucking when you start with the lead. Sometimes
even when you start with the halter only. That's why I like to start
as early as possible (if possible) so they are just used to it from
the start. The older they are, the wilder they are, and the longer
it'll take to get them trusting.
Let's see. I think there was a question on greys. I don't remember
what it was but anyway I am certainly not an expert. I only know what
we've found in our own breeding program and what I've seen in others.
But my big news tonight is that my TB girl who was bred to my DRG boy
Scirocco and aborted twins, then bred back to Penumbra, aborted twins
again today! Not exciting in the I'm really happy way, but exciting
in that she was carrying twins again. I just hope next time she
carries them to term! But I'll wait till spring to breed her now. And
I'll have the vet check her out, and talk about progesterone
supplementation. Looking at her history, she's only had singletons
before and was kept open the year before I got her. She's only 9 or
10, not to old. If anyone has advice here, please speak!
That's my news!
Heather
Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Creswell, OR
541.895.0964
Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
http://www.whitelot usalpacas. com
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