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Friday, August 01, 2008

RE: [AlpacaTalk] Buying alpaca fiber?

Hi Folks,

Fantasy farms is the group behind the "Cash for your fiber" and the company
AAFF. Fantasy Farms, in case you have not recognized them--- are the folks
who are buying all the little male weanlings they can come across at the
cheapest prices they can.and then turning around and selling them at
Farmer's markets and Auctions singly to folks as the "ideal pet" .for your
child, etc. These little weanlings are sent home with folks who don't even
understand that they CANT live alone and survive.and the price that they are
sold at.$1000 per animal! These buyers are ignorant of their needs, their
health requirements.everything.

So..they are not folks that I'd spend time getting my fiber to.for myriad
reasons.

If you need to know more about Fantasy Farms..google "pet alpaca" or ask Jim
Patrick at Patrick's Pastures.who has been getting calls from new buyers
whose alpaca pet boys bought from Fantasy Farms are "not doing so well".and
would he please do the mentoring or maybe buy the animal from the new
owners..even though he's had nothing to do with the sale except live in the
same state where Fantasy Farms is located.

Jeannie Wells of Wellspring Suris has the sad luck to live near enough to
these folks to see into their barns.and she says that the little boys look
so morose! She is also upset at the idea that someone is so callous to
these little male weanlings from all over the country.bought for a song and
sold at an inflated price singly.and without proper education of the buyers.
Sets up everyone for a bad experience.so Texans in Alpacas are trying to do
something about it through their AOBA affiliate organization. The dumping
of these boys is very cruel. If their business ethics are as good in other
parts of their business.I would not let them buy my fiber either.

Allison Moss-Fritch

Santa Clara, CA

New Moon Alpacas

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Heather Zeleny
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:40 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Buying alpaca fiber?

Hi everyone!

I suppose you all got the mass email today for "CASH FOR YOUR ALPACA
FIBER" from the American Alpaca Fiber Federation, LLC. I followed the
link and what I garnered from scanning the page was that they will be
making 80% cotton 20% alpaca denim??? I didn't see what they planned to
pay for the fleece they buy. I apologize in advance for being a bit
skeptical, but I don't really want alpaca in my denim, and I do want to
know what someone will pay me for my fleece.

Here in Oregon, we have a really great project going, thanks 100% to
Peter and Carol Lundberg. It's the Pendleton Alpaca Blanket Project. I
have donated almost 30 pounds of fleece. That was all of the "good
stuff" I was willing to part with! Many others have donated far more,
and people are still donating fleece! Please follow this link to learn
about this very exciting project!
http://www.elderberrycreekalpacas.com/

The idea is, we donate fleece, and those who have made donations by
June 15th (yes, that date has passed but they may be flexible on this)
have the opportunity to purchase throws at cost plus 3%, which they
estimate will come to less than $40 per blanket. We can then re-sell
them at an estimated retail price of... I dunno, what does a 100%
alpaca throw go for today? $100, $200? No matter, good return on your
investment.

In the future, they plan to and really want to be able to purchase
fleece from growers (us) at a minimum of $2 per pound. I know, that
sounds like peanuts... sort of. It is an avenue to sell your product.
It is a place to grow our industry. I know they want to offer more than
that in the future.

Wanna know what I think might be happening with that American alpaca
"co-op"? I think they gather up all the fleece, have it processed, sell
it at very low prices to Red Maple and other partner vendors, and then
sell the finished product back to us, the producers. They don't offer
cone yarn to us. They just want our free fleece. And then maybe they
write a token check for a couple 100 bucks for your 10 years of
membership, donations, and participation. Plus members have to pay
shipping costs. I don't think those dividend payments even pay the
shipping!

The Lundbergs and Pendleton Wool are different. We're Oregonians! We
want to make good stuff and reward people for their hard work! It's
hard work raising alpacas! We think everyone deserves compensation for
their efforts!

So that's my limited view. I also know that I am going to be working
hard to make product from my 2nds and 3rds. Hey, that's the throw-away
stuff! If we can make product from every bit of fleece that comes off
our alpacas, we can make a go of this industry.

Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
(formerly West Wind Alpacas)
Eugene, OR

541.895.0964

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
http://www.alpacanation.com/whitelotus.asp
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AlpacaTalk/join

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