[AlpacaTalk] Re: Wild Cherry
Hello Janice...first we are sorry about the loss you experienced. It
hits the heart hard and we feel what you have gone through. We did
have one other thought; aside from the obvious regarding the cherry
trees have you had the soil tested for other possible toxins? We know
of one farm that bought from a cabbage grower who experienced many of
the symptoms you describe only to find that a chemical applied over
the years by the cabbage grower was not only toxic and lethal to
Alpacas but was very residual and resistant to breaking down. This
may be an avenue you might also wish to pursue, again through the
County Ag Agent in your area. Calling the county will generally get
you to the right persons. Good luck, Michael
Michael and Margery A. Morack
Greenbriar Farm
262.970.9633
MAM2@wi.rr.com
Waukesha, WI
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> I know Wild Cherry is toxic. Does anyone know the details? I know it
> is the wilted leaves and the bark from what I have read. I have done
> an inventory of my wooded pastures and discovered to my dismay they are
> full of huge, tall mature wild cherries that are currently thick with
> the cherries, which of course are dropping in the pastures. I have
> never noticed this before, but then I have noticed a lot of wild fruit
> trees bearing this year that have never borne fruit before. I believe
> there is a panicked survival mode happening around here due to our
> extended drought. Are the cherries toxic as well? Surely not.
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> I have had an estimate done on removing these trees......$
> don't have that kind of money and would have to get rid of the
alpacas I
> have, before I could spend that kind of money. And I have no other
> place, without cherry trees, to move them. I only have 4 left having
> buried 2 breeding adults last year and numerous premature babies over
> the past several years :-(. I guess I now know why all the premature
> births - wild cherry? And I can only guess they are also the cause of
> my two adult deaths. The stud male I had an autopsy done on and was
> merely told he had some sort of intestional obstruction. He was
fine in
> the morning, dead by night, after much obvious distress for which the
> vet could apparently do nothing. The female, I did not even know was
> pregnant, was just dead in the pasture one morning with a nearly dead
> baby a ways off from her. I managed to keep that baby alive only about
> 4-5 days. He seemed fairly strong and would drink from the bottle, but
> he had some sort of deformity on one of his front feet that made it
hard
> for him to get around. He went downhill one night and was dead by
the next.
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> The male died in the winter when I suppose it is possible he was eating
> the dead leaves off the ground. I have seen many of them eating the
> dead leaves......
> most brutal heat wave. She was fine the day before, but didn't eat
> dinner, and was dead by morning. The trees are so tall they cannot
> reach their leaves, so I do not believe she was eating anything from
> these trees.
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> These wild cherries are absolutely everywhere around here. If they are
> so toxic how do wild life manage to survive? A walk thru revealed that
> the horse pasture is full of them.....still in the bushy stage which I
> am cutting out myself. The horses are not touching them.
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> What brought my attention to this whole situation was one of the
alpacas
> had pulled down a sapling and they had stripped it of its leaves, so I
> didn't recognize what it was. I had it cut out one day as it was
> hanging in my way, and saw the alpacas crowd around acting like kids in
> an ice cream store. They were gnawing on the little branches left
> behind and literally sucking up the sawdust off the ground from
where it
> had been cut like it was candy and I panicked. I got them away and
> quickly cleaned up what was left.
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> Hence my dilemma.....
> (the trees) out of there without creating more hazard from the sawdust
> and also wild cherry is a weed that will sprout forevermore from the
> stump left behind. One of the tree services that came out to give
me an
> estimate said to pour concrete all over all the stumps, when I told him
> I wouldn't want to use an herbicide around the alpacas. How awful that
> would be.
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> Do you think this is really what has been causing all my premature
> births and deaths?
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> Thanks! Janice
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