Re: [Alpacasite] Re: Vaccinations

I'll get the details from my vet. It was her suggestion after we had one case of anaphylactic shock post regular AD/E shot-bad thing is the animal didn't even need it, just seemed to be the "thing" to do! We saved her using my husbands' epi pen, and then some long acting steroids to override the reaction. After that and the article that followed shortly in ALpacas Magazine about the other reactions to AD/E, she prescribed the compounded solution. I"ll call her in a week or so, to get details on ordering. This was my lesson on the "less is better and if they don't need it don't do it!" herd management. But I will always vaccinate for CD&T. After watching helplessly, while that little cria suffered horribly from a clostridial infection, I will never have it happen again because I didn't stay on schedule with the shots. Take care, Jane Levene

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> Jane, this is an excellent idea! Can you give us more of the
> specifics? For example, what is the exact type of vitamin
> concentration and type. Normally, vits A, D and E will not solvate
> in saline as they are oil soluble. But there are alternate forms of
> the vitamins that are conjugated and thus are water soluble.
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> Great information.
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> Steve H.
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> At 04:55 PM 11/23/2005, you wrote:
> >whenever we need to use the injectable A,D/E, we get the saline
> >based formula which has to be mixed up at a compounding pharmacy. A
> >little more trouble than the "off the shelf" stuff, but it is my
> >understanding that most allergic reactions are due to the suspension
> >agent (an oil) rather than to the medicine (whether AD/E or CD/T
> >etc). ALpacas magazine had an article a few years ago on a farm that
> >lost more than a few crias to anaphylactic shock after A,D/E
> >shots. Also remember that an allergic reaction can occur up to an
> >hour or two post dose! Keep the epi on hand after giving shots, and
> >hang around for a while, watching those animals. Take care, Jane Levene
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> > > This was what I was thinking about when I read the thread about
> > > injectable A,D and E. Everything has risks, and benefits, and strange
> > > after 40 years of no problems, suddenly there is a problem.
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> > > > The use of a vaccine, or any drug, is always a risk versus benefit
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