Re: [Alpacasite] Re: Showing Juveniles without removal of amniotic cria fleece

Heidi, do you care to share who said this statement about a cria
being born dry (aka "shrink wrapped")? This is the most absurd
statement I have ever heard about alpacas! And I have heard a lot of them.

They don't lick as they can't extend the tongue like a cow. Every
single alpaca and llama I have ever seen born was very wet under the membranes.

More seriously, you can e-mail me privately on the name. But I do
need to know it so that mistaken bit of alpaca "trivia" can be stopped.

Steve H.

At 11:54 AM 11/27/2005, you wrote:

>Here's a question.
>
>Attended a neonatal clinic. We were told that due to the altiplano's
>cold climate, a cria is born "dry" - basically shrink wrapped in a
>membrane so that it doesn't freeze to death before it could dry off.
>This is also the reason mom's don't lick the cria after birth.
>
>So - how can amniotic fliuid come in contact with the fiber
>to "stain" it?
>
>Heidi Christensen
>Graham WA
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>--- In Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com, Judith Korff/Ladysong Farm
><judithkorff@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Nancy, up until a very short time ago (maybe 2-3 years), everyone
>showed their animals "au natural." Tipping, or shearing of cria tips
>to remove the amniotic fluid, was something that became popular to
>preserve the usability of the cria's fleece when it was shorn, since
>tui fleece is very like velcro, and everything clings to it. I think
>the idea spread to the show ring, where "tipped" crias presented a
>more manicured and showy appearance as against the untipped
>competitors. (Certainly there had been some people using grooming
>techniques all along, and the allowance of tipping seemed to even the
>odds of winning.) However, my experience has been that the judges
>look for more than a polished appearance. The only thing I can think
>of that judges ascribe to tipped fleece is the quality of "crimp to
>the tip", which is lost when you leave the fiber untipped because the
>tips become very matted and twisted, which causes a loss of crimp
>integrity. It will be interesting, now that the
> > new rules proscribe tipping, to see how many unpolished alpacas
>the judges find "with crimp to the tip."
> >
> > You'll be in good company if you show your alpaca without
>tipping; every other honest competitor in the ring will be in the
>same boat! :-)
> >
> >
> > Judith Korff
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Tom Cameron, D.V.M. & Steve Hull, Ph.D.
Edmond, Oklahoma

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