Re: [Alpacasite] Re: Registered Names/Herd Identifiers

John, Neil & Lona,

I agree that using herd identifiers with simple initials seems to be
most appropriate but I cannot fault someone if they want to use a
complete farm name (and I am not faulting Lona's opinion either). I was
more interested in Lona's apparent reluctance to even buy an animal if
it had a complete farm name in it's name (and I understand she has
bought these types of animals in the past but reading between the lines
of her post it appears that she has a definite reluctance to do so -
especially for males).

One thing to remember that even if one can't identify the herd ID (and I
suspect many/most would have no clue who SFA is) you can always look on
the ARI certificate and find who owned the dam at time of birth of the
cria. This is a very telling clue.

Tim Wilson
Sterling Forrest Alpacas
Chagrin Falls, OH

mpcpneilp wrote:

>John,
>
>I like farm identifiers for 2 reasons. Like you, I rarely recognize
>what the letters stand for. However, when I have an interest in a
>particular animal I will take the time to track that information
>down. Without the identifier it would be very hit or miss if I would
>EVER find the small farm that produced a particularly excellent
>animal.
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>Beyond that....................All the neat names would be taken
>already! Names such as, "Black Thunder"!! "Apollo"!! "Silver________"
>(your fill in the blank) would be used once and only once. Put a farm
>identifier in front of these neat names and we can all use them ;-)
>
>Signing off for the weekend folks. My internet connection continues
>to be down at home. See you all on Monday, and Happy Thanksgiving.
>
>Neil
>A Paca Fun Farm
>Mt. Airy, Maryland
>Sugarloaf Mountain, Maryland
>www.apacafunfarm.com
>--- In Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com, John Robinson <jmr@h...> wrote:
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>>Hi All,
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>>I thought I might jump in here and mention that there are some
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>farms
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>>who can not use initials when it comes to a herd identifier. In
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>our
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>>case we have to use HR Alpaca's because both HR and HRA were
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>already
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>>taken.
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>>I'd also like to add that with the exception of three identifiers
>>listed below, I don't recognize any of the others. In order for a
>>farm's initials to be easily identifiable it would need to do quite
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>a
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>>bit of advertising, aside from registering animals, to brand their
>>farm. It would make all of these other identifiers a moot point if
>>someone isn't able to recognize the farm they represent. With the
>>exception of being able to duplicate names in the registry and
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>using
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>>the initials to differentiate between two animals with the same
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>name,
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>>they're obsolete, wouldn't you say?
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>>John Robinson
>>HR ALPACAS & SURI LLAMAS
>>OR
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>>Lona Wrote...
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>>We have purchased alpacas with the full farm name in the animals
>>registered
>>name but it just seems to be a bit of overkill. Most will know whose
>>identifier specific initials are (ATV, AABC, MFI, OAR, PVA, AFA,
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>etc) so
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>>what is the point in the entire name being used? I am NOT saying
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>it
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>>is wrong
>>but it is just an issue for me that I tend to avoid in my purchases,
>>especially if it is a stud male.
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>>When I mentioned the above a few years ago to a newer alpaca
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>breeder,
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>>they
>>immediately changed from using their farm name to initials and I
>>continue to
>>purchase from them.
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>>Yes, we have purchased an animal whose name was subsequently
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>changed.
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>>Lona
>>ALPACAS of Tualatin Valley, LLC - Since 1988
>>Buy N. American for "Pure Perfection"T
>> <http://www.alpacatv.com/> www.AlpacaTV.com
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